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Textlinks.com Update

Originally posted by venomx
Czar are you sure you are not an employee of SI? I mean 50 people could post a bad review here and you would call all of the liars. Get real.

Venomx,
I do not believe Czar has called you or anyone else on this board a liar, please be aware that a statement like that may be interpreted as a personal attack and could result in you being banned.

Also, Venomx under the new rules you are allowed to link back to your previous complaint. If you wish to do so you will find it here.

WabbyTwax,
As I have not yet answered your question I would like to say that I personally have been paid by SI, and on time aswell.
 
Thanks

Thanks Moo .. helpful as usual!

Im gonna try them out for a while and see how they do. 6 cents a click isnt bad at all considering you don't have any advertisements to annoy people with. At my average of a .10% clickthrough rate I'll make about $500 a month from them.
 
Well WabbyTwax, I hope you make that small fortune from them. Although remember it's 6c per second click (click on their results page) in their TextLinks and ClickThruTraffic programs. :)

Oh, and don't forget to come back and tell us weither or not they pay. :)

Best of luck,
 
Czar are you sure you are not an employee of SI?
Total disclosure: For the second time, John, I am not and have never been an employee of SI. Also, I have never collected or requested any monetary compensation from SI other than revenues earned through their affiliate programs. I'm simply a happy camper - and one that has been reviewing affiliate programs and ad networks since 1996, so I've certainly seen my fair share of shady programs come and go. I know that SI does not belong within this category, and thus am willing to defend their honor when one of their unhappy ex-affiliates makes public statements against the firm that are unrepresentative of the experiences of the majority.

As Robert noted, over 100,000 publishers have given SI a go, and of those only a very small minority have legitimate complaints. I'm not doubting that your experience was bad - that's not a question here. Whenever an affiliate manager is handling 10s of thousands of unique accounts, there are bound to be a few legitimate publishers burned unrightfully (just look at the experiences of MailBits, CJ, and other popular affiliate ASPs - it goes without saying that the silent majority of their affiliates are happy with their treatment from these solid firms, but there is always a vocal minority who make repeated public posts that attempt to tear away at the comfort of others). What's happening on this forum is that one or two unhappy affiliates are repeating their negative statements again and again, with painful predictability - and those of us who have a more rounded view of the firms in question (in addition to being the editor of Net-Ads and an SI affiliate, I'm a Geek/Talk moderator and SitePoint mentor, so I hear dozens of stories regarding SI each day) are here to add balance.

I can't remember exactly how much you lost during your relationship with SI, but I seem to recall that it was something in the range of $25. Is it really worth pursuing your agenda in the name of $25 that may or may not have been dropped out of an accidental flagging of your account almost a year ago? The mere fact that SI have survived this long since that time (when others in the field have continued to burn through their cash reserves, all while withhold payments en-masse, breaking contracts, dumping 1000s of affiliates and slicing pay rates several fold) should be testament to their strength - and in these times, knowing which firms are the strongest, most flexible and most reputable is life-or-death information for professional publishers.

As a side note, I have witnessed several successful conflict resolutions involving SI, in which publishers voiced their legitimate complaints publicly, before following this up via email and having their accounts and earnings reinstated. If you honestly were dropped unfairly, then pursuing this route, and avoiding making fiery accusations would have been a far wiser avenue.

To claw my way back on-topic: Good luck, WebbyTwax. Hopefully your experience will be more in-line with the 99,000 affiliates who have never had a bad word to say about SI. ;)
 
Textlinks and clickthrutraffic are great programs. Clickthru traffic pays 20 cents per click-thru for the term "casino" . SI pays on time. I've always gotten my checks. They're good people although my stats have dropped drastically since searchtraffic went click-thru instead of click. I'd take 3 cents per search over 6 cents per click-thru.
 
I've looked at the programs pretty quickly awhile back, but I haven't used either yet. What are the benefits that TextLinks offers over ClickThruTraffic? I don't see any benefits from Textlinks, as they look like basically the same thing as ClickThruTraffic with lower payment.
 
NC_TOM,

You'll find that while ClickThruTraffic offers 13 high-paying bids TextLinks.com offers you a variety of several thousand 6c keywords. (Anything with a top bid over 12c)

Hope that helps,
 
trial run

I gave them a shot for a week, but what I didnt realize before i signed up was that not only did a visitor have to click on the text link, but they also had to click on at least one of the search results links that popped up. I did like that there were virtually any keywords available that I tried. But I wasnt making enough to amount to anything.
 
Oh, thanks a lot Supermoo! I get it now; so these two programs are similar to AllClicks and BulkClicks (BulkClicks pays higher but less text linking options) except on a second-click basis right?
 
Originally posted by NC_TOM
so these two programs are similar to AllClicks and BulkClicks (BulkClicks pays higher but less text linking options) except on a second-click basis right?

NC_Tom
That's right... I like Textlinks (even though it's less) because I can get real specific. In my case I have a real estate referral site and one of my best text link goes to "forclosure". I get quite a few clicks on that one but with Bulk Clicks I'd be stuck with their general topic link and very few of my visitors would click on it. In the big picture, I make much more with TextLinks.
 
Looks like you got it mostly figured out...

-TextLinks.com pays a flat 6 cents but allows the webmaster complete flexibility in using text links that fit their site. If you have a website that deals with antique TV remote controls you can make up text links that deal with that exact topic. The only requirement is that there be at least a single $0.12 bid on the term. We provide a "bid monkey" tool in your stats are for you to check on the bid rates.


-ClickThruTraffic.com generally pays more (in some in cases more than triple the TextLinks rate) but it's only for about 10 or 12 specific categories. (ie Automobiles, Finance, Adult, health, etc.). You can use buttons or text links that we provide or you can make up your own.


Both programs send the visitors to TurboFind.com. There are NO traffic leaks of any kind on the search results pages. No ads, no banners, no buttons. If the surfer does not click on a link and make you money there is nothing else for him to do except return to your page. We do have a blank search box on the results page but your referral code is linked to it and you get paid if the surfer uses it.
 
Thanks a lot.. Both programs along with SearchTraffic seem like a good match for a portal site I might make pretty soon.

Also, Robert, I might be using Allclicks in very high volume fairly soon (as in 1 million clicks/month or more possibly)

Is it true that you might suspend my account for investigation, and I wouldn't get paid for clicks during the "investigation" period?
 
Does anyone pay on FIRST click? Is Goto.com still profitable? Getting a SECOND click is much much harder than getting the first click.

That is what everyone is missing here about SI's click programs. It is a SECOND click, NOT the first click.

Having said that......there are not too many first click programs out there but certainly some alternate 2nd clickthrough programs which are still profitable.

I would encourage people to try other programs such as www.adsearches.com and www.targetwords.com where you wont need to worry about keeping a minimum bid and fear not getting paid.
 
I'd say for first click, GoTo is your best option. But like Robert said, there are no traffic leaks in the Standard Internet/TurboFind programs. You should get a pretty high click through ratio in most cases with these.
 
Cyberspace,

SI pays a guaranteed 6 cents to 20 cents on the second click. The programs you mention pay a guaranteed 1 cent per second click.
 
Originally posted by Robert from SI
Cyberspace,

SI pays a guaranteed 6 cents to 20 cents on the second click. The programs you mention pay a guaranteed 1 cent per second click.

Robert,

I think you'll find that Cyberspace's post referred to TargetWords. This company pays a guaranteed 1c per FIRST click and up to 7c extra on the second click. (So a maximum of 8c per second click can be obtained, or a minimum of 1c per first click).

Their website also tells you the amount you are most likley to recieve on the second click-through, and from my own expeience I find that it is very accurate for up to two months. Then, if it does change it is typically not a very big change.
 
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Cyberspace, just a few notes:

You're right about GoTo.com. They are a solid company, and their affiliate program can provide solid returns. However, their latest round of TOS changes saw them cancel acceptance of foreign publishers, while placing a ban on prefills - which is what made their program so attractive in the first place.

An alternative is GoClick's rising-star program, which also pays 2 cents/1st-click. This program has just two drawbacks, the first being that if your visitors fail to convert well, your flat rate will be reduced to 1 cent/click. The second being that since GoClick has yet to gain a critical mass of keyword-based advertisers, it's unclear as to whether they will succeed in the long-run.

Also, AdSearches is now a 2nd-click program, and my experience shows that your returns will likely be around 1-3 cent/2nd click, which is unappealing.

I have used, and continue to use, all of these programs (except TargetWords, which certainly is promising), and have found GoClick and SI's programs to provide the highest effective CPM rates. Of course, your mileage may vary depending on the responsiveness of your users and how well the links/searchboxes are integrated into your site, but you shouldn't discount programs of this type simply because they pay on a 2nd-click basis.

2 cents.
 
Originally posted by }:8) Supermoo


Robert,

I think you'll find that Cyberspace's post referred to TargetWords. This company pays a guaranteed 1c per FIRST click and up to 7c extra on the second click. (So a maximum of 8c per second click can be obtained, or a minimum of 1c per first click).

Their website also tells you the amount you are most likley to recieve on the second click-through, and from my own expeience I find that it is very accurate for up to two months. Then, if it does change it is typically not a very big change.

I finally got around and checked TargetWords. Sounds interesting but I found that when you do their search, you get a bunch of pop-unders (probably how they pay the .01 on the first click) before you can make the second click. I think you would loose some of your clients (being ticked off at the pop-unders) at that point before they would make the second click. I'm guessing that when all is said and done, you would have fewer second clicks (where the money is made) with TargetWords than TextLinks and probably less money.
 
Jiminsd,

We display a single pop under when the search results load and an exit pop up when the visitor leaves.

The minimum flat $.01 payment fairly compensates the webmaster for sending visitors away from their websites.

Lawrence
 
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