Loud and Proud, Snake-Inc!

[Phairest]

I urge anyone who thinks they've found the best hosting deal around to go to snake-inc.com and take em up on their price matching offer- if you have hosting, tell em what you're getting for how much, and if you're lookin at someone else's plan/offer just send em the specs. I got my hosting this way, and though I can't say exactly what I got (b/c it was SO damn cheap!) I can pass on the general tip. (Okay I'll give ya a hint- remember onehost.ws? They were dirt cheap, and I never even really considered going with them b/c their service was crap (and now they've folded- surprise), but Snake matched their prices anyway)

And as long as you're there check out snake's community, then check out the other host's community. Post and see how long it takes to get a response at both; mail em both too as long as you're at it and see how fast they are, plus what kind of people you're dealing with. You might ask the other host if they mix their free and paying customers on servers (Snake doesn't), or if they block any regional queries (Snake doesn't), or if they have any setup fees (Snake doesn't), or if they're prudish about "objectionable content" (Snake isn't). And what payment options do they take? Credit cards, paypal, *yawn* yeah great- how about good 'ole CASH? And can they supply you with discounted (or even free) domains, as well as discounted layout/graphic design should you need it? Oh and will they give you an even better deal if you voluntarily link back to em? And do they have an account demo available to test-drive? And will they give you a quote for X additional space/bandwidth up front for when your site grows AND guarantee those (and your original) costs for the duration of your account? And if you need to move your site, will they assist you free of charge? Guess what- on all counts, Snake does! :applaudin

Having been burned countless times before by less-than-forward hosts regarding the above issues, I asked all those things and more when I was in the market 6 months ago of every potential host- Snake was the only host I found that answered them all to my satisfaction, AND they had the most features, were the most flexible, most personal, and least expensive. I haven't made much of a fuss about them before though, because it seemed almost too good to be true... But now, after being with them for 6 happy months, it seems a crime to keep quiet any longer. Their features, service, and reliability are of the highest caliber; cpanel is kept up to date, modules are always being added, Jeff (live support) is online nearly all the time, and my seperate site-monitoring service has only reported ONE 4-hour downtime since I've been there.

So whattaya waiting for? Check www.Snake-inc.com out!! :classic2:

P.S. As the rules dictate: No I'm not getting compensated in any way for posting this. My (ugly I know) snake-hosted site is severusforever.us.

 

[Robert]

Originally posted by Phairest
(Okay I'll give ya a hint- remember onehost.ws? They were dirt cheap, and I never even really considered going with them b/c their service was crap (and now they've folded- surprise), but Snake matched their prices anyway)

So onehost.ws has folded because of their cheap plans and you decided to go with a host who was able to match those plans?

Now that makes no sense.

if they're prudish about "objectionable content" (Snake isn't). And what payment options do they take?

So Snake doesn't care what a user puts on the servers? So that places every site in a possible problem when the feds or the datacenter wants to pull the server for illegal files. nice one.

Having been burned countless times before by less-than-forward hosts regarding the above issues, I asked all those things and more when I was in the market 6 months ago of every potential host- Snake was the only host I found that answered them all to my satisfaction, AND they had the most features, were the most flexible, most personal, and least expensive. I haven't made much of a fuss about them before though, because it seemed almost too good to be true... But now, after being with them for 6 happy months, it seems a crime to keep quiet any longer. Their features, service, and reliability are of the highest caliber; cpanel is kept up to date, modules are always being added, Jeff (live support) is online nearly all the time, and my seperate site-monitoring service has only reported ONE 4-hour downtime since I've been there.

And how long have you been with Them?

P.S. As the rules dictate: No I'm not getting compensated in any way for posting this. My (ugly I know) snake-hosted site is severusforever.us.

This wasn't a review, but a advertisement for their service. *sigh* another one.

 

[dynamohosting]

Well done Robert!

 

[Phairest]

So onehost.ws has folded because of their cheap plans and you decided to go with a host who was able to match those plans?

Now that makes no sense.

Well, um... YEAH. Makes sense to me, especially considering I'd heard only bad things about onehost.ws and only good things about snake. And seeing as how onehost.ws was a startup and snake had been hostin for years. And as snake offered price matching I decided to see how serious about it they were and sent over onehost.ws's insanely cheap plans. They delivered, and have never given me cause to regret my choice.

So Snake doesn't care what a user puts on the servers? So that places every site in a possible problem when the feds or the datacenter wants to pull the server for illegal files. nice one.

Excuse me, but "objectionable content" is a FAR cry from illegal content, and if you can't appreciate the difference... well, I'm just real glad I'm not on your server. To clarify, Snake does NOT allow any illegal content of any kind (duh), but neither do they reserve the right to censor or suspend what they deem "objectionable content," which is a good thing; you're the webmaster, so YOU decide what's appropriate in your space, and as long as it's legal you're cool.

And how long have you been with Them?

Six months (as I'm quite sure I said TWICE).

This wasn't a review, but a advertisement for their service. *sigh* another one.

Well sorry if it comes off that way, but I'm an extremely satisfied customer, and I daresay if one of YOUR customers had posted something similar about YOUR company you wouldn't be so flippant. Yes, I think if it was praise for Verohost you'd be quick to say, "It's not an ad! See, there aren't even any figures listed, just a happy customer pointing out our lesser-known features and advising others to always be informed buyers."

I don't suppose that instead of turning around everything I say you would instead consider the much more productive vocation of answering how your company stacks up against the features I know Snake has? If not, I'll have to assume you are *sigh* just skirting the issue...

 

[Robert]

Originally posted by Phairest
Well, um... YEAH. Makes sense to me, especially considering I'd heard only bad things about onehost.ws and only good things about snake. And seeing as how onehost.ws was a startup and snake had been hostin for years. And as snake offered price matching I decided to see how serious about it they were and sent over onehost.ws's insanely cheap plans. They delivered, and have never given me cause to regret my choice.

Wait... OneHost.ws didn't survive because of the cheap prices they had (you said that, not me).. so you sign up with another company with the same prices? that makes no sense.

Excuse me, but "objectionable content" is a FAR cry from illegal content, and if you can't appreciate the difference... well, I'm just real glad I'm not on your server. To clarify, Snake does NOT allow any illegal content of any kind (duh), but neither do they reserve the right to censor or suspend what they deem "objectionable content," which is a good thing; you're the webmaster, so YOU decide what's appropriate in your space, and as long as it's legal you're cool.

Uh-huh. Objectionable content can be considered as adult content, pornographic material, niicce. That's what I need.. to host some porno so I can be hit with DDOS attacks and have to risk getting into legal actions with the court systems because some 13 year accessed it.

Six months (as I'm quite sure I said TWICE).

You stated you were in the market for hosting 6 months ago, does not mean you've been with them for 6 months.

Well sorry if it comes off that way, but I'm an extremely satisfied customer, and I daresay if one of YOUR customers had posted something similar about YOUR company you wouldn't be so flippant. Yes, I think if it was praise for Verohost you'd be quick to say, "It's not an ad! See, there aren't even any figures listed, just a happy customer pointing out our lesser-known features and advising others to always be informed buyers."

I don't suppose that instead of turning around everything I say you would instead consider the much more productive vocation of answering how your company stacks up against the features I know Snake has? If not, I'll have to assume you are *sigh* just skirting the issue...

I don't need beg my clients to come in here and "review" my service, wait I mean place an advertisment that I email them in exchange for discoutn hosting.

Features? Now you want to compare my company to Snake-Inc.com? LOL too funny.

Have a great day Snake.. err Phairest

 

[Curtis H.]

Originally posted by Robert
I don't need beg my clients to come in here and "review" my service, wait I mean place an advertisment that I email them in exchange for discoutn hosting.

Of course you have proof of this Robert? I sure hope so.

Originally posted by Robert
Features? Now you want to compare my company to Snake-Inc.com? LOL too funny.

To me, it would be a toss up but I wouldn't use either "company."

 

[Sodfather]

Note: The following comments are from a Snake Inc. client; if you are as bold and ignorant as Robert of VeroHost.com, please disregard my comments as I have been paid off by Snake himself.


Firstly, let me say how apalled I am at the balls you have to try to tarnish the reputation of Snake Inc. as you have. What is your problem? What so great has Snake done to you to grant you the right to slander him and his company before hundreds of people?

Originally posted by Robert
Uh-huh. Objectionable content can be considered as adult content, pornographic material, niicce. That's what I need.. to host some porno so I can be hit with DDOS attacks and have to risk getting into legal actions with the court systems because some 13 year accessed it.

The above statement is probably a direct reflection of how you run your hosting company. All I see is I, I, I. Has anyone informed you that running a business does not solely involve yourself and your needs? You're providing a service to others, which means that if they have pornographic material which they'd like to share, they do not give a damn what it spells out for you, the "host" - they just want it hosted somewhere. It is certainly not the task of utilitarians such as yourself to run webhosting companies, or any companies for that matter. Consumers, especially webhosting clients, want a company (host) that looks out for their needs and not just those of the company.

Please think before your next bash, slander, and fallacy-fest - especially with your compnay logo attached to your name.

Man! :doh!:

 

[Robert]

Originally posted by Sodfather
Note: The following comments are from a Snake Inc. client; if you are as bold and ignorant as Robert of VeroHost.com, please disregard my comments as I have been paid off by Snake himself.


Firstly, let me say how apalled I am at the balls you have to try to tarnish the reputation of Snake Inc. as you have. What is your problem? What so great has Snake done to you to grant you the right to slander him and his company before hundreds of people?



The above statement is probably a direct reflection of how you run your hosting company. All I see is I, I, I. Has anyone informed you that running a business does not solely involve yourself and your needs? You're providing a service to others, which means that if they have pornographic material which they'd like to share, they do not give a damn what it spells out for you, the "host" - they just want it hosted somewhere. It is certainly not the task of utilitarians such as yourself to run webhosting companies, or any companies for that matter. Consumers, especially webhosting clients, want a company (host) that looks out for their needs and not just those of the company.

Please think before your next bash, slander, and fallacy-fest - especially with your compnay logo attached to your name.

Man! :doh!:

You're kidding right? When you are on a shared hosting service, the actions of other clients directly and indirectly affect your site, the service you receive and the support. Why would I risk my servers and service to host pornographic matieral so 1 client can be happy while my other ones do not appreciate to have such material on the server?

 

[Sodfather]

Originally posted by Robert
When you are on a shared hosting service, the actions of other clients directly and indirectly affect your site, the service you receive and the support.

Oh, for sure...But you're not going to try and crawl your way out of letting your egocentrism slip through your client-concerned front with that statement, are you? It's obvious you were thinking of the costs of offensive material to yourself and only to yourself.

But on to other things besides your blantantly obvious self-centeredness...Why lash out at Phairest who, when you take the time to read his post, was hardly trying to sell a service? Is it a crime to find something enjoyable and share it with others, because that was all (s)he was attempting to do (before you polluted it) I'm sure.

 

[Robert]

Originally posted by Sodfather
Oh, for sure...But you're not going to try and crawl your way out of letting your egocentrism slip through your client-concerned front with that statement, are you? It's obvious you were thinking of the costs of offensive material to yourself and only to yourself.

But on to other things besides your blantantly obvious self-centeredness...Why lash out at Phairest who, when you take the time to read his post, was hardly trying to sell a service? Is it a crime to find something enjoyable and share it with others, because that was all (s)he was attempting to do (before you polluted it) I'm sure.

Ok.

 

[Wojtek]

Im gonna back up Robert.

As a customer, I DO NOT want my site to be hosted on the same server as another high-risk website. I want my website to have the highest uptime and best performance, and a porn or warez or any other questionable type would just make that reliability uncertain.

Thats why I chose an Non-Adult host. Yes my friends there are 2 types of hosts. Adult and Non-Adult. Obviously VeroHost.com has a strong policy on that and I'm very satisfied.

 

[notnamed]

I'm backing up Robert on this one too. If you say it's because I work for him I'll sit back and act all amused if you like, because it's not. I actually, and I confess it, am terrible at sales, and haven't made Robert a one. So.

Has anyone informed you that running a business does not solely involve yourself and your needs? You're providing a service to others, which means that if they have pornographic material which they'd like to share, they do not give a damn what it spells out for you, the "host" - they just want it hosted somewhere. It is certainly not the task of utilitarians such as yourself to run webhosting companies, or any companies for that matter

Excuse me, no. In such a saturated market as web hosting, you're offering the service and people pay you for the privilege of using it. If they want it hosted somewhere they can buy their own damn server and set it up in their bedroom, it'll be all nice and cosy until some random error happens upstream and they can't do anything about it.

As a customer, I DO NOT want my site to be hosted on the same server as another high-risk website. I want my website to have the highest uptime and best performance, and a porn or warez or any other questionable type would just make that reliability uncertain.

Nor do I.

Oh, for sure...But you're not going to try and crawl your way out of letting your egocentrism slip through your client-concerned front with that statement, are you? It's obvious you were thinking of the costs of offensive material to yourself and only to yourself.

Um...if it costs Robert, it'll cost me. Robert runs VeroHost. If something costs him, he'll have to cut something from me, even if it's just his time.

Why lash out at Phairest who, when you take the time to read his post, was hardly trying to sell a service? Is it a crime to find something enjoyable and share it with others, because that was all (s)he was attempting to do (before you polluted it) I'm sure.

This I'm agreeing with you on. I don't really think it was neccesary to "lash out" at Phairest. S/he was just making a post about how enjoyable her host was. Whether the hosts business practices are good or not aren't another hosts's concern, as the thread was aimed towards the consumer anyway.

 

[Snake316]

Haven't had any one posted here in a while.

Wow, Robert is it?

First off, thank you guys for the post - Sodfather and M.J. Your feedback is always appreciated.

Let me clear a few things up. I do not own Snake Inc, I am Sales person for the company, the lead sales staff to be honest. This post in fact, was NOT as the 'friendly' Robert thought it was, a mere advertisement. Phairest has been a customer of ours for a long time now, and it seems she appreciated the service, as many others did. She just took the liberty of posting something about it…what did she get in return? A straight out bashing from the ‘respected’ Robert. It seems this forum needs better management, because something isn’t right.

As for the adult websites, we have one major client in charge of adult hosting, all adult sales are processed to him and placed on the machines he leases from us. So adult, or high risk websites,(as you ‘experts’ seem to call them), are not on the same servers.

In any event, Robert you have tried to compare your company to us, if you wish to think your better, then you may. We are all allotted to our own thoughts. The fact of the matter is, we are both hosting companies in business to provide customers with their hosting needs. Some will find us as their choice for hosting, and some will find you as their choice for hosting… and lets not forget about others that will find companies such as hostrocket, onehost, or whatever other hosts are out there, as their choice for hosting. If you wish to take your time out, and ‘bash’ Snake Inc, then…well…I need not continue.

Again, I must make a comment this forum needs better management if you are going to have a member with around 1k+ posts come out with insults to mere comments.

Have a good day everyone.

-David
Senior Sales
http://snake-inc.com

 

[Trel]

I miss all the good threads! :doh!:

Okay Snakey lets see how this sounds to you..

Newish member comes to a forum and recommends a host. Provides no proof of claims and has a stunning review...

To me this sounds like advertising and a big ole heaping pile of spam.

Now with regard to Robert/Verohost.com, the comments made here, and the general attitude of everyone I'll say this.

Recently chronic/chorno.. hosting/hoster something like that.. posted a "review" under another username and caused a big uproar around here. I think that might have set off the chain of events here.

Phairest, if you want to complete your review answer these two questions.

1) What is your site URI?

2) Do you have any sort of proof of when you placed your order with Snake-Inc?

Now to the "objectionable content"..

Adult material is high risk no matter how you shake it and I will tell you why.

If my site is hosted alongside adult sites, fine.. I don't expect a DDoS attack, thats not a risk. What is a risk is copyright infringement, child pornography, spam and many things I can't even think of right now that could cause a box to be pulled by the zero tolerance datacenters these days.

Overall if your happy with Snake-INC great but, after what happened this week understand the general skepticism of the community.

Good luck everyone, I hope I made some sense here...

 

[Sodfather]

Originally posted by dynamohosting
Do you realize that offering unlimited space is false advertising?

Unlimited space for 7.95, you cant even buy unlimited space, so how do you sell it?

Hopefully this will be my last reply...

I've grown tired of people like you who have this impulse to try and point out the usage of the word "unlimited" instead of "unmetered" as a mistake. They are identical: sure, unlimited can also mean infinite, but its understood meaning in the web world is unrestricted, or unmetered. Stop whining about and bringing up this hackneyed issue: all of us five years of age and older know what it means. :cow2:

Back to the issue...Robert, whatever got you in a pissy mood (surely not Pharest's helpful post) should not have made its way into this thread: take it easy so we can coexist here at FWS.net.

 

[Visarts]

Ok, I'm a proud member of Snake too, and there's something that needs clearing up. The porn site's that you fear so greatly (I'm not partial to them either) are hosted on a DIFFERENT SERVER.
The name of that server is cute18.net.
And if you want my URI (I guess that's what we're calling it now) it's
http://www.domainofmusic.com
Just check the credits link to see My AD for Snake. I've been hosted by some pretty lousy companies, and Snake is the best one I've ever found. After reading what was posted by the fellow from verohost, I am sure I will never have anything to do with them. I can say for sure that Ms Phairest is only a customer like me. Now, do I work for Snake? Kind of, actually. I'm an 'official reseller'. Do you want to know why I do that? I do it because I started out as just a customer, and after the fantastic support, and fast responses on all of my questions, I took an opportunity that was presented. I did that because I believe in Snake. I believe that I will never find a better hosting company, and if verohost dosen't like that, then they can crawl back under the rock they came from. I am so mad at you people for bashing MJ my hands are shaking. She's just a customer!!! She loves the service here, and so do I! Dammit, people, can't you just accept the fact that you don't own the universe? That maybe somebody might like Snake's services over your's? If you couldn't just be cordial, then why did you post?

 

[Visarts]

Why does it seem that the only people so unhappy about Snake, are from competing companies? If your so confident in your services, why do you argue so vehemently? It sounds as if somebody's a little uncomfortable with competition

 

[Wojtek]

Originally posted by Visarts
I believe in Snake. I believe that I will never find a better hosting company

I have a Dream! That one day ....bla.....bla :biggrin2:

Your 2 sentances reminded me of that, lol, dunno



Back on topic,
The porn site thingy isnt just about reliability of the servers. If the host gets sued for copyright infrigment, probably say goodbye to all the servers, not just the one hosting the pron site in question. Copyright fines are quite heavy

 

[striker]

Just 1 Q Wojtek:

If theyre hosting adult material why would they get sued for copyright infringement?

 

[Visarts]

Uh, yeah. I wasn't even aware that was an issue :confused5