Computer programming

[Weblife]

oh yeah, and im running on windows ME

id like to see what unix/linux looks like, does anyone have any screen shots?

 

[wm2k1]

WebLife: u could find free compilers on download.com
and unix and linux is just an O/S

Hayama-kun: hmm...i didn't know that Dev-C++ was based on g++
but i think that the newest version cxx is much better, the executable is smaller and it able to find more syntax errors

 

[niv]

Dev-C++ is okay, but as it is freeware, it sucks and has less features.

 

[Weblife]

i still want those screenshots of unix or linux

 

[wolfknightx]

Don't waste your time with C...

Learn Ansi C, but first get started with a version of basic -- it's the easiest language to use, and instantly gratifying...you'll want for more later. Move up to turbo pascal (which is released freely by borland). Next, learn assembly language. You'll be glad you did if you ever decide to write device drivers or real programs, and not windows virtual apps. I would then go onto Turbo C (which is released freely by the Borland Musem now as well). If you only plan to write windows apps only, and nothing complex, start with Visual Basic, then move up to Visual C. This is the route I went pretty much, but it wasn't a short journey. If you plan on being a rock solid programmer, prepare to spend many years mastering all these languages, or a few years on one...but if you must master one, learn assembly language...as it's the only true 'language' the computer understands, and can be called out of a framework of any language you choose later on.

Wolfknight

 

[niv]

You don't need any form of BASIC at all to learn any language. Sure it would help a tiny bit with concepts, but other than that, it's only useful if you plan on studying it in depth. You can learn any language without a middle player-it's just like a foreign language. You don't need Latin to learn Greek and vice-versa.

Assembly, I believe, is the best to start out with-it'll give you a rigid foundation for other languages [and hell, if you wanted to, you could create your own].

 

[kingage]

I'd like PHP forever~~

 

[Weblife]

ho i learn visual basics? does it have to be compiled?

give me more info

what should i learn first and after and what programs i can make with what languages, their websites and how i go by learning them and what to do

thanks

 

[wm2k1]

Originally posted by Weblife
ho i learn visual basics? does it have to be compiled?

to program in visual basic, u'll need a compiler from microsoft - there is no free one (unless u get the learning edition which is very limited)

visual basic is very easy to learn, beginners to programming could pick it up really fast

once u get a hold of it, u could also program in asp using vbscript

 

[Weblife]

ok so im 14

how would i buy the compiler?

 

[wm2k1]

duh...computer store...or buy online

 

[Weblife]

by the way i still want those screen shots of unix/linux

 

[Weblife]

hmmmmm

my brother's friend is taking computer sciences and hes gonna give me the cd for visual basics 6

 

[Canuckkev]

I have never tried Visual Basic. But is it just like it says, Visual? Like, make a button, go into properties, get it to target something. Or is there actual scripting involved?

I would say learn C++, then once you have the basics, try some assembly, and see what you are actually doing in C++. If all you want is some dumb little windows applications, I guess VB would be okay. But C++ is more transferrable I would think...

 

[wm2k1]

Originally posted by Canuckkev
I have never tried Visual Basic. But is it just like it says, Visual? Like, make a button, go into properties, get it to target something. Or is there actual scripting involved?

programming is involved
u can't just create button and expect it to do something
visual basic just help w/ the visual aspect of the program

 

[wm2k1]

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Originally posted by Weblife
by the way i still want those screen shots of unix/linux
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that is just mandrake linux under gnome (got it from their site)
but if X Windows is not running, it just command prompts (like dos)

 

[wm2k1]

if u have a fast connection, u could download the iso for free

http://linux.tucows.com/system/distributions_rating.html

 

[Weblife]

im running on 56k for another few weeks anyway

does unix/linux look just lijke windows?

 

[niv]

The desktop environments do.
There's also a command line. [like the kind cygwin/telnetting/SSHing provides]

 

[wm2k1]

Originally posted by Weblife
does unix/linux look just lijke windows?

only if u have some kind of x windows installed
like KDE or GNOME