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Apple Gives 100k to NO no Prop8
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I already stated my viewpoints earlier in the topic. Did you not read my entire post? I already said I was bitter and hateful. I'm just expressing it now in this topic by not giving a ---- anymore.
Because there's a demonstrated, and confirmed 5-year-breakdown in so-called "monogamous" homosexual relationships. In fact, if you'd bothered to read just a little of the material I provided (periodic studies of the gay community in most capital cities in Australia), you'd see immediately that most "committed" gay relationships include "infidelity" by at least one partner. This increases overtime, and is a contributing factor as to why so few gay relationships last longer than 5 years.
So what? Grow up; there's plenty of us who got bullied at school for any number of different reasons.
Well that's funny, because people who "support" same-sex-marriage are usually more likely to see Marriage as just that. Read this thread, and see if you can find someone who doesn't support same-sex-marriage saying Marriage is just a worthless piece of paper?
Not long ago, I quoted the definition of Marriage - the legal definition of Marriage:
"marriage" means the union of a man and a woman to the exclusion of all others, voluntarily entered into for life.
And here is the bill that formally defined it:
http://www.aph.gov.au/library/Pubs/bd/2003-04/04bd155.htm
And this is the Marriage Act 1961:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ma196185/s5.html#marriage
And I was told that calling Marriage a union "entered into for life" was "flat-out ridiculous".
People will complain about every aspect of Marriage:
"It should include same-sex-unions"
"People should be allowed to have more than one"
"It shouldn't mean 'for life'"
"Incestuous relationships are a beautiful thing"
(link) - Patrick and Susan have been living together for the last six years, and they now have four children. .. Incest is a criminal offence in Germany. Patrick Stuebing has already served a two-year sentence for committing incest and there is another jail term looming if paragraph 173 of the legal code is not overturned. .. "Under Germany's criminal code, which dates back to 1871, it is a crime for close relatives to have sex and it's punishable by up to three years in prison. This law is out of date and it breaches the couple's civil rights," Dr Wilhelm said. .. "This couple are not harming anyone. It is discrimination. And besides, we must not forget that every child is so valuable," said Dr Wilhelm. .. "We would like society to recognise us, as any other normal couple," he said.
And then, of course, there's NAMBLA
Now most people who recognize heterosexuality and homosexuality don't think paedophilia is a "real" sexuality: it is. It has been well established that those suffering from the sexuality are in many ways unable to prevent their "temptations". I suppose I could explain that I believe anyone faced with temptation has the choice not to commit that sin; but that philosophy can fall on deaf ears: so let me state this as a quantifiable FACT; anyone sexually-attracted to CHILDREN who does not have control over their sexuality has a duty to society to overcome their temptation and NOT give in to it.
In regards to you comment about homosexuals in their 60's, etc - yeah that happens with anorexia too. Sad though it is.
tlchosting
Active Member
AWWWWWW you twat, I am from the UK and most gay relationships and laws are diffrent here and no wonder why people come to the UK. Pease like you. Over here most gay relationships last over 25 years or a life time commitment.
1) Do not make comments as if you know me.
2) "Well that's funny, because people who "support" same-sex-marriage are usually more likely to see Marriage as just that. Read this thread, and see if you can find someone who doesn't support same-sex-marriage saying Marriage is just a worthless piece of paper?"
Marriage means a lot to me and I have told my partner that when we are married I do not believe in divorce and he agrees. SO ITS NOT PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE WHO ARE MORE LIKELY TO SEE MARRIAGE AS MEANINGLESS.:doh!: And i have a few gay friends who would like to prove you wrong on that personal statement.
3) Live in the UK you ---- "(periodic studies of the gay community in most capital cities in Australia)" much better over here.
4) So what? Grow up; there's plenty of us who got bullied at school for any number of different reasons. <<< People like you cause young gay men to do suiside its in the statisics. How dose it feel to know you help people to feel like they want to kill them self? Mind you from reading you closed minded statements sound likes ur happy being a killer.
5)Yer I got bullied for being gay and some made statements like you. Do you know what since getting older I don't give a ---- about people like you and i have and always will stand up for the gay community and my self. If i saw you out on the street in London I would have to brake your knee caps.
6) Now most people who recognize heterosexuality and homosexuality don't think paedophilia is a "real" sexuality: it is. It has been well established that those suffering from the sexuality are in many ways unable to prevent their "temptations". I suppose I could explain that I believe anyone faced with temptation has the choice not to commit that sin; but that philosophy can fall on deaf ears: so let me state this as a quantifiable FACT; anyone sexually-attracted to CHILDREN who does not have control over their sexuality has a duty to society to overcome their temptation and NOT give in to it.
WTF have you got a ---- growing out of your head or is it just me?
Most paedophilia is commonly known in hetrosexual relationship and its normaly down to the father although I have done years of youth work and also know women to do things to there sons ages 13 to 15. And paedophilia is not a sexuality its a mental health condition and personally peodos need to be hanged.
Over here in the UK (thank god I live here), Being homosexual is proven to be connected to the brain and genes. And there have even been test to prove that twats like you cause people to hide there sexuality.
7/10 of stright women was shown nude photos of women and was sexualy turned on. But would not admit there gay.
5/10 stright men 2 bit like your self :ninja: was shown gay photos and was sexualy turned on. But of cause they said "were not gay don't know why them readings come up"
7) And yes after reading this you might be able to tell I am a hetrophobic. alot of stright men I can't stand. 97% of my friends are women mainly because there not like you and let people gay/stright/bi to live there lives as they see fit.
7) THANK ---- I LIVE IN THE UK LOVE IT HERE. ANY ONE WHO FEELS LIKE MATTHEW SHEPARD COME AND LIVE IN THE UK AND LIVE A HAPPY GAY LIFE.
8) Love you Matthew RIP
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These studies show us nothing new, other than 7/10 women do like to watch porn no matter what they say.
Using a visual aid to invoke an emotion is a sort of entrapment, I'm not normally a violent person that goes round smashing skulls, but you could easily invoke that sort of anger with the right video.
These studies show nothing more than humans cannot completely control emotion and the physical effects of an emotion on the body, we knew that anyway through extensive study of things like jealousy and anger ... it does not show that most of the world are in the closet.
Using a visual aid to invoke an emotion is a sort of entrapment, I'm not normally a violent person that goes round smashing skulls, but you could easily invoke that sort of anger with the right video.
These studies show nothing more than humans cannot completely control emotion and the physical effects of an emotion on the body, we knew that anyway through extensive study of things like jealousy and anger ... it does not show that most of the world are in the closet.
RomeoNBambie
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Are you sure???
I would just like to say that being a gay man myself I do not agree with what you are saying.
I have known many hetrosexual marriages to end due mainly to the fact that the males , lets just sat couldnt keep it in their pants lol, I agree that marriage is something not to be entered into lightly, not unless you plan on spending the rest of your life with that person.
I know a gay man who was in a gay marriage with his partner for just over 15 years, which may i remind you is alot longer than most straight marriages.
As for pedophilea, I dont think this is a sexuality, more a mental problem, straight people cant not help being straight, gay people can not help being gay, its just who they are, but pedophiles can help, by not molestering children. Stick to people alot closer to your age.
And the only connection between Annorexia and Pedophilea is that they are bout mental illnesses.
I would just like to say that being a gay man myself I do not agree with what you are saying.
I have known many hetrosexual marriages to end due mainly to the fact that the males , lets just sat couldnt keep it in their pants lol, I agree that marriage is something not to be entered into lightly, not unless you plan on spending the rest of your life with that person.
I know a gay man who was in a gay marriage with his partner for just over 15 years, which may i remind you is alot longer than most straight marriages.
As for pedophilea, I dont think this is a sexuality, more a mental problem, straight people cant not help being straight, gay people can not help being gay, its just who they are, but pedophiles can help, by not molestering children. Stick to people alot closer to your age.
And the only connection between Annorexia and Pedophilea is that they are bout mental illnesses.
tlchosting
Active Member
People call it entrapment because they can't lie there way out of it.
Yer not every one can control emotions but its funny when a pedo gets tested and its normal age group they show no emotion at all.
I had the test done me self and i showed no emotion to pics of women.
No offence Jan
Where's the reasoning to support your statement ??
Do you want to put pedo's in the same basket as gays ??
I didn't think so; you can't have it both ways. Pedo's have a mental disorder, it's not just illegal to have sex with children it's actually not natural ( in social terms ), homosexuality is totally natural.
You can't just say everyone is a liar, you have to look from a distance.
You'll probably have felt during your life the pressure to conform, pressure applied by hetrosexuals, mostly subconciously or indirectly. From a distance you must be able to see that gay people do the same thing, you're interpretation of these results and the statements you've made about them after totally fit in with that.
No doubt some of the people who were aroused by homosexual activities are gay, but when you look at the results of any test you have more than one way to interpret the results, and choose the most sensible conclusion you can draw. You can't just make a massive assumption about a group of society that, as a homosexual, you have little to no idea about.
Do you want to put pedo's in the same basket as gays ??
I didn't think so; you can't have it both ways. Pedo's have a mental disorder, it's not just illegal to have sex with children it's actually not natural ( in social terms ), homosexuality is totally natural.
You can't just say everyone is a liar, you have to look from a distance.
You'll probably have felt during your life the pressure to conform, pressure applied by hetrosexuals, mostly subconciously or indirectly. From a distance you must be able to see that gay people do the same thing, you're interpretation of these results and the statements you've made about them after totally fit in with that.
No doubt some of the people who were aroused by homosexual activities are gay, but when you look at the results of any test you have more than one way to interpret the results, and choose the most sensible conclusion you can draw. You can't just make a massive assumption about a group of society that, as a homosexual, you have little to no idea about.
tlchosting
Active Member
Not at all as you can see on my comment below here I think they should be hanged. Seems Meksilon "paedophilia is a "real" sexuality" thinks pedos are ok becuase its a "sexuality" :confused4
6) Now most people who recognize heterosexuality and homosexuality don't think paedophilia is a "real" sexuality: it is. It has been well established that those suffering from the sexuality are in many ways unable to prevent their "temptations". I suppose I could explain that I believe anyone faced with temptation has the choice not to commit that sin; but that philosophy can fall on deaf ears: so let me state this as a quantifiable FACT; anyone sexually-attracted to CHILDREN who does not have control over their sexuality has a duty to society to overcome their temptation and NOT give in to it.
WTF have you got a ---- growing out of your head or is it just me?
Most paedophilia is commonly known in hetrosexual relationship and its normaly down to the father although I have done years of youth work and also know women to do things to there sons ages 13 to 15. And paedophilia is not a sexuality its a mental health condition and personally peodos need to be hanged.
I agree being gay is natural, and its not a choice your gay or your not.
I don't say every one is a lie some men/women can be grow up enough to say there gay or bi.
But society has still got a closed mind and think its some think to be ashamed of.
My self was lucky my mother is bi and was happy with my sexuality especially because she did not want to be a granny, all though me and my partner want to adopt in the future.
I just read the facts and what I have seen in my jobs and state them that is all. Some facts i don't agree with.
Like STD are most common in gay society, when I think its common in both. Hetrosexuals have red light district and gay men do cottageing.
WHAT THE ----, CALIFORNIA?
Why are you so stupid?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)#2008:_Proposition_8_results
52.2% in favor of Prop 8
Why are you so stupid?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)#2008:_Proposition_8_results
52.2% in favor of Prop 8
'Live in the UK you ---- "(periodic studies of the gay community in most capital cities in Australia)" much better over here.'
So I can see - so what?
'People like you cause young gay men to do suiside its in the statisics. How dose it feel to know you help people to feel like they want to kill them self? Mind you from reading you closed minded statements sound likes ur happy being a killer.'
'Do not make comments as if you know me.'
"People like me"? Just what the F. makes you believe you can judge me?
'If i saw you out on the street in London I would have to brake your knee caps.'
Yeah good, hate and violence - how admirable.
'Most paedophilia is commonly known in hetrosexual relationship and its normaly down to the father although I have done years of youth work and also know women to do things to there sons ages 13 to 15. And paedophilia is not a sexuality its a mental health condition and personally peodos need to be hanged.'
No, that's incest paedophilia is the sexual attraction to prepubescent children - aged anywhere from 4 years old to 10; and sometimes as old as 12. It's a proven quantifiable fact that those suffering from this sexuality are sexually attracted to children. It makes no difference to them what sex the child is as it is sexual attraction to children; not sexual attraction to "young girls".
'Over here in the UK (thank god I live here), Being homosexual is proven to be connected to the brain and genes.'
No it hasn't - in fact it's been proven that homosexuality is not determined genetically; this can be seen as identical twins can have different sexualities.
'7/10 of stright women was shown nude photos of women and was sexualy turned on. But would not admit there gay.
'5/10 stright men 2 bit like your self :ninja: was shown gay photos and was sexualy turned on. But of cause they said "were not gay don't know why them readings come up"'
Source?
So I can see - so what?
'People like you cause young gay men to do suiside its in the statisics. How dose it feel to know you help people to feel like they want to kill them self? Mind you from reading you closed minded statements sound likes ur happy being a killer.'
'Do not make comments as if you know me.'
"People like me"? Just what the F. makes you believe you can judge me?
'If i saw you out on the street in London I would have to brake your knee caps.'
Yeah good, hate and violence - how admirable.
'Most paedophilia is commonly known in hetrosexual relationship and its normaly down to the father although I have done years of youth work and also know women to do things to there sons ages 13 to 15. And paedophilia is not a sexuality its a mental health condition and personally peodos need to be hanged.'
No, that's incest paedophilia is the sexual attraction to prepubescent children - aged anywhere from 4 years old to 10; and sometimes as old as 12. It's a proven quantifiable fact that those suffering from this sexuality are sexually attracted to children. It makes no difference to them what sex the child is as it is sexual attraction to children; not sexual attraction to "young girls".
'Over here in the UK (thank god I live here), Being homosexual is proven to be connected to the brain and genes.'
No it hasn't - in fact it's been proven that homosexuality is not determined genetically; this can be seen as identical twins can have different sexualities.
'7/10 of stright women was shown nude photos of women and was sexualy turned on. But would not admit there gay.
'5/10 stright men 2 bit like your self :ninja: was shown gay photos and was sexualy turned on. But of cause they said "were not gay don't know why them readings come up"'
Source?
A recent study showed the majority of divorces are initiated by the wife with the husband unaware anything's wrong; completely irregardless of infidelity.
No it isn't. The average length of Marriage is in the high 20's or early 30's; although difficult to prove conclusively.
YES - but many cannot prevent being sexually attracted TO children.
No that's rape - which is different again - and yes it can manifest itself as "paedophiliac" engagements (it can also manifest itsef as homosexual engagements) - HOWEVER - paedophilia as a sexual orientation is well documented. I'm not trying to discuss the ACT of paedophilia. There are people who have said that while they resist their sexual urges, they do not partake in paedophiliac relationships.
The point I'm trying to make is this: just because paedophilia as a asexual orientation exists doesn't change the fact that said relationships are harmful and destructive for both participants.
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And to that utterly ridiculous claim that I make homosexual people feel like suiciding; how is it that homosexuals who were not out-of-the-closet have told me they're homosexual because they trust me more anyway?
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Wow this went off topic. Do you thin kit is acceptable for a plublic company to spend money (stockholders in away) for marketing for a purpose that is a social issue. I'd hate to say it but I'm a catholic stockholder. I belive marriage is for man and women and they shouldn't be using my money t ostop it.
It's crazy this thread is still going... I stopped like 5 pages a go haha
Why isn't it acceptable for a company to spend their money? That statement could go off in so many different scenarios, but, as a stock holder you're investing in the company, you invest in every decision that company makes, right now Steve could just say "You know what, ---- it. I'm selling Apple, Inc. for $1 to the first bidder." and you invested in that decision.
PS: Again, who says it's your money? It could be Steves own money. In reality your stock shares are a fraction of what he's spent.
PS: Again, who says it's your money? It could be Steves own money. In reality your stock shares are a fraction of what he's spent.
Still I'd rather have one cent more in my pocket.
