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Okay how about my opinion on the subject..
Free hosts have the right to block anyone they want to because they are giving away service. Now I believe that this host went alittle too far and just blackholed the countries on that list but, other hosts have policies about signups.
Hostultra won't accept signups from certain counrties.
We won't accept any site that is written in non-european languages. (About the same as not accepting signups from certain countries.)
If you don't like the policy, pay for hosting. Thats the bottom line.
Free hosts have the right to block anyone they want to because they are giving away service. Now I believe that this host went alittle too far and just blackholed the countries on that list but, other hosts have policies about signups.
Hostultra won't accept signups from certain counrties.
We won't accept any site that is written in non-european languages. (About the same as not accepting signups from certain countries.)
If you don't like the policy, pay for hosting. Thats the bottom line.
But I do like your policy. There are English-speaking users all over the world, as this forum has clearly demonstrated. I speak English as well as any American or Briton, but I just happen to live in China. I would be creating legit English websites targeted towards English-speaking traffic, yet I would be rejected under policies such as HostUltra's. The policy that sites must be written in a certain language is fair.
Even though I believe HostUltra's policy unfair, it's something I can live with. Plus, people desperate enough for his hosting can always talk to him about getting a custom account made.
250Free's policy, however, is something that I cannot accept. It is morally wrong to do such a thing. In any case, if you're creating a Danish website, chances are that you won't get very many visitors from Ethiopia.
Just out of curiosity, do you know every European language? I'd hardly believe that you know all the Romance (Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Romanian), Germanic (English, German, Dutch), Scandinavian (Danish, Norweigian, Swedish), Slavic (Polish, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, etc.), and Baltic languages (Latvian, Lithuanian), plus the weird nameless family of Finnish, Estonian, and Hungarian. :devious2:
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conkermaniac, our policy is not meant to dissallow people such as you who from joining.
However it is impossible to automate a system that allowed you to join but not allow all the other abuse from china.
Checking languages on pages is not a solution, we have nearly 30k accounts now and growing at about 160-200 per day we cannot review all the sites
We would have closed down long ago if we continued to suffer the abuse we did when we first opened and did not block anything. Since blocking countries and verifying IPs our abuse is down to minimal, the only thing i have to deal with now is porn sites uploading TGPs, although we modified our software last week to block tgp uploading. Other then that i never check accounts, it all runs smoothly on its own
However it is impossible to automate a system that allowed you to join but not allow all the other abuse from china.
Checking languages on pages is not a solution, we have nearly 30k accounts now and growing at about 160-200 per day we cannot review all the sites
We would have closed down long ago if we continued to suffer the abuse we did when we first opened and did not block anything. Since blocking countries and verifying IPs our abuse is down to minimal, the only thing i have to deal with now is porn sites uploading TGPs, although we modified our software last week to block tgp uploading. Other then that i never check accounts, it all runs smoothly on its own
HostUltra is right.
Our policy couldn't work if we allowed signups on his scale, we make it so difficult for people to signup (very very strict requirements) that we can review all sites we host on a nearly daily basis.
HostUltra is great, I recommend him to everyone that I don't accept myself.
Our policy couldn't work if we allowed signups on his scale, we make it so difficult for people to signup (very very strict requirements) that we can review all sites we host on a nearly daily basis.
HostUltra is great, I recommend him to everyone that I don't accept myself.
I agree, and I'm not really complaining about you. Just out of curiosity, if you could team up a warez hunter (like the one Webdude created) and a automated language-checking script, wouldn't that effectively crush non-English sites and abuse?Originally posted by HostUltra
Checking languages on pages is not a solution, we have nearly 30k accounts now and growing at about 160-200 per day we cannot review all the sites
Seychelles is a small island nation in the middle of the Indian, yes, but they primarily speak English. Trust me, it's harder to find Ethiopians who speak Danish than Seychellois who speak English.
Originally posted by conkermaniac
I agree, and I'm not really complaining about you. Just out of curiosity, if you could team up a warez hunter (like the one Webdude created) and a automated language-checking script, wouldn't that effectively crush non-English sites and abuse?
Non english sites is not what causes the abuse.
We only allow non english sites because its our advertiser only allows their ads on english written websites.
The abuse we recieved from banned countries is mostly file storage with encoded warez images.
We built our own warez hunter script which works better then Webdude's one (well at least from the way he explained it)
Ours simply wont allow the file to be uploaded at all, instead of webdudes which scans the server at a specific time.
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The whole idea of the World Wide Web is that anyone in the world, as long as they have a link to some comunications network that supports the internet protocols can access the net.
Blocking other countries from seeing your site really sucks.
Blocking other countries from seeing your site really sucks.
If that's so, then would it be feasible to create an automated language-checking script and lift the current bans on the rest of the world? The expatriate community is growing substantially in Asia and Africa, and I think that it is unfair that we are unable to use a host that has proven itself reliable. I'm not demanding that you do anything...I'm just wondering what your opinion is on the language-verification script.
Well conkermaniac the problem is just this..
China, Korea, and some others have reputations that proceed them about abuse with webhosts. Its only natural that the best webhosts will ban them because of that, the reputation for abuse.
It seems you along with every other non abusing Chinese person gets caught in the net. A very unfortunate side effect of all this.
All I can suggest for you is a host that doesn't care about language or where your from, such as http://www.tripod.lycos.co.uk/
Hope this helps some.
China, Korea, and some others have reputations that proceed them about abuse with webhosts. Its only natural that the best webhosts will ban them because of that, the reputation for abuse.
It seems you along with every other non abusing Chinese person gets caught in the net. A very unfortunate side effect of all this.
All I can suggest for you is a host that doesn't care about language or where your from, such as http://www.tripod.lycos.co.uk/
Hope this helps some.
Thanks for your concern, but personally, I don't need hosting...I've got it already. I do understand that many Asian nations have a reputation for abuse. However, HostUltra has already pointed out that "Non english sites is not what causes the abuse" and that he has an efficient warez tracking system that "works better then [sic] Webdude's one".
Lycos is one of the worst around. Their firm belief in European elitism are even more frustrating than that of HostUltra. At least HostUltra does it because of a justifiable reason: ad revenue. They have explicitly stated that they want only Europeans on their server, although they have only made moves to keep out Asians. As it stands, Asians and only Asians are blocked from the Lycos FTP server. Since they have not cited abuse as a reason, it seems that their ultimate goal is to foster discrimination against Asians.
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I made some corrections in my paragraph on Lycos after you replied.
