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Time to rebuild my host spread

Scott, LP-Trel was lookin' for ya, did you guys ever get in touch? Any news on the Wiki?

Board is pretty much the same except I need to take Flyhost off the recommend board, though I'll keep my account because I want to do a Creative Commons music site and I need the space, so that will be my counter-test to Scott's with "legit use" (real songs, not just a batch data download).

Uh, did you see flyhosts.net's homepage? It says:
FlyHosting Solutions is Officially closing down business. We haven't been making enough money to keep open. We recommend backing up all your data, as we will be officially closing down on 11/11/2011. No more new orders are being accepted! We will be willing to sell our domain to anyone that is interested, we can work out a price.

Maybe you won't be keeping that account! You may want to check with Ryan!

As for the wiki, LP-Trel did get a hold of me. He thought my WHOLE server was hacked, which was not correct. It was just my PERSONAL Cpanel account that got "hijacked". So, as of now, the server is hard at work finishing dumping and verifying the dump's in integrity. I will ask for an ETA.
 
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Flyhosts was also reported to WHMCS as they were not authorized to use WHMCS. I reported them a couple days ago, funny how they didnt have that message up just a couple days ago.

I am willing to venture that WHMCS is having their site shut down or their provider was told and they are shutting their asses down.
 
Lights Out on Flyhosting

Uh, did you see flyhosts.net's homepage? It says:

Maybe you won't be keeping that account! You may want to check with Ryan!

Heh nope, I don't want to check! Thanks for the tip, that's what this thread is for - if he made "Us" report his closing, that's the official Skunker that seals all the tiebreaks. So then no, I guess my account won't be staying put. But then, I didn't really take it seriously either.
 
He was using a nulled version of WHMCS? I think that's hilarious... If you cant afford the $15 dollars a month for WHMCS, then you should not get into web hosting...
 
He was using a nulled version of WHMCS? I think that's hilarious... If you cant afford the $15 dollars a month for WHMCS, then you should not get into web hosting...

Yeah. It is shame for a host to use a nulled script.
If he is using free script, it won't really causing him so bad reputation anyway.
But using nulled script? They are just asking for trouble themself anyway.
 
Flyhosts was also reported to WHMCS as they were not authorized to use WHMCS. I reported them a couple days ago, funny how they didnt have that message up just a couple days ago.

I am willing to venture that WHMCS is having their site shut down or their provider was told and they are shutting their asses down.

He was using one of the same datacenters I use. I also reported him to the company. They REALLY don't go for that sort of stuff. :D
 
New direction for HostMyThing

Okay, I am making a couple of decisions.

Scott, cancel the Wikipedia mirror. By now it is clear that it is up against your wall of abilities. Here's another minor educational point in business - clients cancel their business when the business doesn't deliver! The request emerged about mid August. It is now mid ... November!

So, let's do this. That was the last hang-on of your old super-sell ad. So by canceling that request, you're free to "just be a host" and redo your marketing. You can still offer services you know you can do - you did fine on the other apps. (Is that empty one still around or did it fall off the page? I might have a new project for it. What else is still up?)

So, you are doing just fine on the test page. So let's free you from your albatross and see where we go next.

Trel, thanks for your efforts too, but apparently something went sour because y'all were on final unpacks 10 days ago.
 
Flyhosting is Down

And there's the end of that saga!

Did anyone see any kind of official notice here on FWS? Otherwise, that's a total closeout for that piece of this soap opera!

I'll try to do a big board update soonish after the holiday weekend.
 
Board Update December 2011

Okay, after a bit of holiday induced laziness, I got around to removing Flyhost on the official board. Everyone else is going strong. So, it's high time to post the Year End board, because I'm pretty sure none of the remaining hosts will collapse between now and new years.

As of late, the official copy is at the top of http://www.freevoteusa.com/index.html.

I still have to do an official File-Merge with the rest of the hosts, but I kinda' wanna' post a couple more articles before I do that.

Anyway, this is the state of the board for now, and I think I'll freeze entries again for a while.

Happy Holidays,
--Tao
 
Hi everyone, in case you don't know, the US Government is trying to pass a bill that will censor OUR internet, in the same ways China and Iran do. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (I cant ask enough) join the movement to destroy this bill. Join at http://americancensorship.org/. Take a look, and you will see you can help by posting a little snippet of code onto your site. I did, take a look at http://www.theswagbay.org, to see what happens when you post the code on your website.

Please note I posted this here, because this is a very frequently checked thread, and I am hoping to get the message across.

As for Peo and Jan here, this could mean you could loose all of your American Audience and Members! All it would take is for a user to post something infringing upon something else, and you could be blocked! Please, if you can, join the movement!
 
No....something much bigger....My time ran out! Let me explain:

Yes, HostMyThing was a "figurehead". My school provided me and my friends with the funds to buy hosting, a domain, and eventually a server along with template rights. It has been an interesting 6 months! I am a 15 year old boy from New York. (deeplist, you called it months ago!) My "assignment" was to find a growing industry, "join" it, see how I do, and save my results. I did just that, I am into computers, so I choose the web industry. I came upon web hosting when a teacher recommend I should start a website (TheSwagBay...I own that, and plan on developing it....later), and from there, Tao documented most of the rest of the story. That's why I supported Tao from the start. He could record my progress, and act as proof to my educators that I did infact follow through with this project.
Web hosting is a great "side business" for most, but for some, they make a living off of it. You have to have the skills and know how to host people in a way that is beneficial to the end user. In other words, hosts need to have the "edge" over other hosts.

So a few things:
Tao + My sites were the only sites ever hosted on the server. If someone would have tried to purchase hosting, It would not have worked, as no payment gateway was hooked up
I learned a ***load of "stuff" in the past 6 months, and even started establishing myself as a host. It is difficult if you are coming in with no prior knowledge of hosting! (as you all know, I didn't do so well the first few months)
I really don't like the indirectness on this forum, but that's the user's fault (if someone ask's about a template, someone replies "WTF this is copyright!") xD its okay though! Just some trolls!

I just decided (while writing this) that I'll just post my report if anyone asks! My coordinator actually said I can keep the domain HMT. I'm thinking in the future of continuing in this path, because, as right now, there is a growing demand for hosting solutions. Thanks all for this interesting experience! (and, well frankly for putting up with me!)

I plan on staying around this forum, there is something about it that just catches my eye. Once again, I couldn't have done any of this without you! One final note, if any hosts would allow me to call them, and interview them, that would be very helpful. I could add that to the project as well!

EDIT: I have decided not to continue hosting.....
 
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HostMyThing goes out in fireworks.

Okay, here we go. The word for you is "Enfant Terrible". You're obviously smart with good language command, but I and a few other regulars here are upset to hear this. Why? Because the only use of hiding this big of a back story is that you "wouldn't be taken seriously". Guess what - the inconic price of being an Enfant Terrible is that finally you get a shade too clever for your own good and write yourself into a corner and can't wriggle out again.

The problem you have now is that you have risked your HMT brand name as well. Because whenever Scotts Senior and Junior decide to launch it for real, it's a Cry Wolf scenario. "Really, we're real now! Really we are, pretty please with a cashew on top!".

Oh, do post your report, but I warn you, the tone of what you should submit is probably not what you might be thinking. Skies alive help me if you're submitting portions or even all of this thread as your course materials, because I'm an ex Enfant Terrible myself and now I'm pissed. You deserve TWO grades in your class, a B- for knowledge learned and a Tsunami Grade PowerBomb F for ruthlessly ignoring the ONLY rule I have, which is ... wait for it... be a legit host that lasts longer than 7 months!

You were already down to something like 0.3 out of 2.7 on my rating points scale, or 2.4 out of 2.7 if you want it in penalties up. This note piledrives you into the floor because my "job" in my thread is to *recommend hosts to other people*. There's a REASON I keep saying the 7 month mark is this mysterious threshold. It's because damn near everyone talks various brands of good games for six months, then their operation implodes. Congratulations! Why? Because YOU just became part of the problem! "Anyone" on the techie side can throw up a server and let users pile on data. The hard part is keeping it sustainable, which is restating that 7 month thing again. At least your note counts as "the host closing note", barely, so you avoid that little disgrace.

I started my whole deal PRECISELY for critters like you - fast talking guys like you, who announce "I'm Different. I am ______Host, Come host with meeeeeeeee!!!!". Then _________Reason appears "Oh, sorry, my host isn't up anymore. Bye." The WORST ones then start a NEW venture "Sup Guys? I'm Australopithecus Host! Back to the Basics! Come sign up!". That's where that word Turnover Specialist came about. So help me, don't sink into that.

So I PURPOSELY designed my project to IGNORE all marketing ad copy from hosts, and "give them the benefit of the doubt". Then I just start a timer. And wait. This time it's you. Hi!

Do you have *any idea* how EXHAUSTING it is for users to wade through marketing? Likeable as you are, it is EXACTLY for cases like this. It's a systemic conceptual problem with the Net today. It's Short Attention Span Theater, all This Quarter's Results. Mostly no one has time to follow it all along. So I did. It of course started for myself, but became a service to users overall. They want an easy way to know who's a good bet. My Top Line winners are just that. You (and Flyhost, who has also croaked) are part of the reason I went to the second color for the new entries - because I really am starting to wind this down now. I don't have many more 7-month blocks of patience left. I can bank on any two of my 4 TopHosts and one of the other two to cumulatively last five years. I can bank on 7 years for a Last Man Standing. So my inaugural task is done.

So do please post your report. I gave you the B- on the study side because of all the bumps you had learning. As my FAQ page says, I already bias my grading in favor of hosts at the cost to "dispassionate science", but I still almost had to drop you on the eval side for bad service.

Last thing. The reason you get a Powerbomb F from the project side is that I have lately tried hard to get new hosts to identify in a special "Learning Host" category PRECISELY for cases like you. But no. Your last mistake was you walked right into the trap of putting on Emperor's New Clothes to be ______ Company. Lately some of the regulars here have grown shrill with fatigue, but it's a very real problem. I know lots of clients would host with a Learning Host and take extra measures for data backup. I'm thrilled to have folks learn. Just say it! The meta problem in Free Hosting today is that 75% of hosts who should call themselves Learning are drawn like moths to the Company flame, and like a comet swinging round and round, every X months we get more and more tired of the growing crater of Free Hosting.

So I am sorry to say, HostMyThing is gone from the board. This time I am freezing new entries again. Here is the Sunset Board. http://www.freevoteusa.com/index.html

Your vocab word for the day is Swag.

Your Extra Credit Assignment: Ask your teacher how many copyright violations you are risking by reproducing 1375 Creative Works (posts in the thread) for personal gain (as the lynchpin for receiving a grade) by misleading the Thread Owner and with no notification and much less requesting permission from any of the post owners.
 
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Hallo! Let me just clarify some things.
Never did I say I was going to reproduce ANY posts. Look more closely at my previous post. I go to a school where I could get sent to (here its called BOCES, but it's like the public school for mentally retarded and "class rebels") for doing careless things, such as that. All this thread acts as is a "proof" to my superiors that I did indeed go through with what I said I would. Keep in mind, this is not the only forum I have been posting on. No part of this thread will go into the project, it will just act as a "works cited".

EDIT: I mean I will just post the link to http://www.freewebspace.net....

Also, I only said HMT was my property. You should know that I will be selling that domain. I may be younger, but I'm not stupid. I gained an "amateur" reputation from this forum, and obviously after, a "fly by night" reputation for HMT. I assure you, it will be gone by next week.

I got the impression you were pissed by my conclusion, and honestly I have nothing to say to that. I knew from the start I would be another statistic, and here we are. Although I have grown to respect every one here, from deeplist to wswd, I simply can not continue, even though I have the money.
 
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Hallo! Let me just clarify some things.
Never did I say I was going to reproduce ANY posts. Look more closely at my previous post. I go to a school where I could get sent to (here its called BOCES, but it's like the public school for mentally retarded and "class rebels") for doing careless things, such as that. All this thread acts as is a "proof" to my superiors that I did indeed go through with what I said I would. Keep in mind, this is not the only forum I have been posting on. No part of this thread will go into the project, it will just act as a "works cited".

EDIT: I mean I will just post the link to http://www.freewebspace.net....

Also, I only said HMT was my property. You should know that I will be selling that domain. I may be younger, but I'm not stupid. I gained an "amateur" reputation from this forum, and obviously after, a "fly by night" reputation for HMT. I assure you, it will be gone by next week.

I got the impression you were pissed by my conclusion, and honestly I have nothing to say to that. I knew from the start I would be another statistic, and here we are. Although I have grown to respect every one here, from deeplist to wswd, I simply can not continue, even though I have the money.

You tell us. What are we supposed to think? Yes, I'm upset, and you should have something to say to it. In the bigger business world, opening a venture with deliberate plans to shut it down on a scheduled timeline is illegal unless certain precautions are taken (for short term ventures which are publicized ahead of time etc.) Your note was in effect "Ha Ha, this was just something I did to get a grade, class is over now, Bye!".

All you had to do was just tell us it was a class project. That's the tragedy. Then it goes into "different rules" like "Mock Company".

Note to wswd: I've had teachers that would have also been just fine to let him do a class project like this, it's the declining state of education in America.

Scott, you have found us in 2011, not 1999 when the world was all exciting. The veterans here are aging, and time keeps passing in the declining free hosting world. There's a reason I have not made blacklists of my "Alumni", because their second ventures often do better. Maybe you will too. This was just a tiring result to see unfold.
 
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