Originally posted by Giancarlo
I don't support murder
*cough**cough*bullfighting*cough**cough**cough*
Originally posted by Giancarlo
I don't support murder
Originally posted by conkermaniac
GC, I wouldn't believe what I hear.
You say that they had elections. Well, I can tell you right now that very few elections in Asia are ever won without bribery.
Also, who says that there were any other candidates involved in the elections?
Unfortunately, that is the case with most Asian countries that claim themselves to be "democracies."
Hah! When my teacher went to Nepal, she said there was little and very poor quality food there.
And who wrote this report? The government?
Potential means nothing until it is harnessed.
When your country never does anything, it's not hard to imagine that you don't have that much of a debt.
You cant just say "They deserved to die"! How can you say that? Who is to say whether them rebelling was right or wrong? It all changes depending on your perspective. You didn't know these people, you are regarding them as a number and forgetting these were living, breathing people with hearts, feelings, souls, families, lovers...
Originally posted by Giancarlo
Over 3,500 people were killed in the past seven years and that is because of the maoists. (99% blame on them) Who is for you to say these people had hearts when they were cold-blooded murders?
And go to hell! Bullfighting is not murder, it is only for you animal activists to say that.
Originally posted by anhedonia
What lovely double standards you have, my darling GC. You're just a bigot, and that's all you are. I think that word was created especially for you.
Originally posted by byrdgirl13
And in Colombia, has the problem been solved with war, either? Or Nepal for that matter? Apparently not. And even when/if the fighting ends, there will have been great destruction and many lives lost.
Originally posted by Giancarlo
Same in the United States too... and in Europe. So what is the point? They are much smarter in more developed countries so they don't get caught.
Probably, but definitely to a lesser extent.
Unfornately, democracies don't often exist. Singapore for example has been ruled by one party (correct if I am wrong) for many years, and Singapore is doing very well.
I thought you were Mr. Democracy? Singapore's government system creates a firmer grip on the people than Communism does.
No it means the economy can grow because the economy does not have a debt burden placed on it, like Argentina.
Well, it seems like Nepal hasn't really ever had a big debt and their economy is still pretty sluggish...
Originally posted by conkermaniac
Probably, but definitely to a lesser extent.
I thought you were Mr. Democracy? Singapore's government system creates a firmer grip on the people than Communism does.
Well, it seems like Nepal hasn't really ever had a big debt and their economy is still pretty sluggish...
Originally posted by lotsofissues
Haven't we learned anything from the Cold War? Think about the all the US failures when supporting inept/corrupt governments against communist rebels.
China the nationalists were in a cvil war against Zedong and his rebel army.
The nationalists leadership was corrupt and were responsible for a heavily faltering economy.[/b]
During the civil war the US spend massive amounts of money backing the nationalists.
Result? Well, the nationalists are now stuck on a little island called Taiwan and no country officially recognizes them.
Cuba in the 1950's was ruled by the also ineffective US backed Batista.
Lots of peasants and lots of poverty allowed Castro to lead a quick rebellion. Now, Castro has remained in power and seen how many US presidents pass?
Vietnam the US backed government of South Vietnam was all of the things of the above: unpopular, corrupt and inept.
So after hemmoraging billions what was the inevitable results; the south fell.
But think of the popular movements the US backed. Korea and Afghanistan had popular support against the communists, and the ending was a success.
The point I'm trying to make is if Nepal is in horrible shape then why are we supporting the current government?
And even if we didn't have the former question then what about this $20 million?
But, supporting a bad government itself is a half --- solution.
If we are serious about helping then we should go in and make some political and economic reforms.
Pour billions into improving the country. But, we aren't! So ---- it! We don't need to toss a half --- $20 million!
Originally posted by lotsofissues
From 1946 to 1949 the US gave $2 billion in aid to the nationalists!
The boom years for Taiwan certainly wasn't immediately after the flight.
And that subject is digressive. My point is about the situation in China during 1946-1949 the nationalists were ineffective and this caused the ppl to look for other sources.
My argument doesn't extend towards defending the economic policies of Castro or Zedong. So don't digress.
As I've said Afghanistan was successfull because there was popular support against communists.
Vietnam- They already suffered millions in deaths and we already suffered thousands.
I doubt we could maintain our losses longer then the North Vietmanese.
Even if Nixon stayed how are you so sure that it wouldn't be the US to first bolt out because of losses?
In Nic. the communist Sadinistas overthrew Somoza. Only in 1990 were free elections held.
3%! In one of the more underdeveloped nations of the world! Truth is that means nothing when 50% of the ppl live under the line of poverty.
Looking into the subject of millitary budget. The library of congress reports that in 1989 the millitary budget was 33 million.
Rebel activity began in 1996. I wonder if they dropped a couple of more cents in the bucket when a war started?
Think of the billions it cost the Russians just to fight the chechyens for a couple of years!
Of course there is ALWAYS a reason for ppl to look towards communism as an alternative, and its because there current one is failing.
The Nepals might have made reforms, but if you search any human rights site you will find a different story.
Hundreds of journalists and human rights activits are being abducted by the police and army.
Civilians are being abducted, shot, and tortured because they are called "suspected" maoists.
In case you hadn't noticed, 1997 was five years ago. Giancarlo, you were only 12 then. It is a long time to still be bragging about growth, especially for economies.There was +3 - +4% economic growth before 1997.
"Bogus peace talks"? Please, Giancarlo, you really make yourself out to be opposed to peace. You said you hate war. If you truly hate war, you will not demand that I tell you what other options there are; you will try to find some yourself. Simply believing in peace does not give me all the answers. I have questions, too.What other solution is there? Let the rebels take control? Get involved in one of those bogus peace talks?
Does the end of new death and misery bring any comfort to those who have already lost their families, their homes, their lives?No. The Nepalese Army must, like the Angolan Army overcome the rebels. Angola has experienced a lot of death and misery, but that is finally nearing an end.
Originally posted by byrdgirl13
You want them to burn, Giancarlo? You want them to burn, to have flames licking at their skin, searing them to the death. Do you understand what that means, Giancarlo? I hope not. I hope not.
Perhaps they do deserve death, perhaps they don't. But as a wise author once wrote,
"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment."
Huh, do you have some kind of official function at these boards?BTW, this is it for my posting in this thread. Please feel free to discuss this more... I may make a few more comments but I will wait and see what people say. I am proposing a rock solid economic and military plan for Nepal that should be followed.
Originally posted by meow
Huh, do you have some kind of official function at these boards?
Why don't you talk about all this with your father? That is what you want to do, isn't it? As it's his approval you are so desperate to get. Hate to disappoint you, but I don't think he reads these boards so maybe you should find another way to get his attention.