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Is it illegal to host a warez forum? My friend owns one and they havn't shut him down. But they sent me an e-mail saying it was illegal.
 
They cannot shut it down, they contact the host telling them to shut it down. Warez forums are obviously illegal as they distribute illegal copies of many programs.
 
Yes of course its illegal, all things related to warez are illegal, the only reason your friend hasn't been shut down is that they havn't caught him.
OFF TOPIC
what happened to pwnage host? It had a very good reputation.
 
My other friend said it was a dud. He got the same thing and his site is working. I don't know what to believe though.

I shut down Pwnage Host because
1) Nobody barly came back after they got their hosting
2) Many people blamed us for some problems they made.

Just too much problems.
 
If you put a disclaimer, it is not illegal. If you don't host the files yourself, you're in the clear.
 
I was going to add this to my site.

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I didn't upload any files.
 
Just make sure they aren't posting any serial numbers inside their posts and you should be fine.
 
Well, you can have serial numbers posted, only if you say that all information posted is property of thier respective owners and for educational purposes only.
 
Johnson (LG) said:
If you put a disclaimer, it is not illegal. If you don't host the files yourself, you're in the clear.
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Do you think a disclaimer on a kiddie porn forum would protect you? It is still illegal. Now, most companies wont attempt to shut down a warez forum if they arent hosting the warez themselves. They will simply use that forum as one of their tools so they can find all the places warez is being hosted, and have THEM shut down.

But yes, linking to warez is illegal. A disclaimer is a claim against something that is NOT illegal.... for example, "this forum holds no responsibility if you are offended by people who swear a lot". Since linking to and distributing warez is illegal, no disclaimer can protect you.

By your reasoning, I could post a disclaimer in a newspaper before I kill someone, or host child porn or Federal secrets on my site so long as I put a disclaimer on my entrance page. Sorry to burst your bubble, but that aint so Bubba! Even if a disclaimer "could" protect you in some way, your disclaimer isnt legally registered with a federal institution, whereas the terms of use of the software you link to does. Therefore, their terms of use would legally over-ride your disclaimer.

And if you ask me if I have ever used warez, I would neither say yay or nay, I can plead the 5th :D

If I did use warez, I would know it, and everything about it is completely illegal. By no means would I attempt to fool myself into thinking I have some right to do so, or that a few disclamation words in html on a hard drive would protect me from legal prosecution. It will protect you from neither criminal nor civil prosecution, or lawsuit.

In the end, providing access to warez is illegal. Linking to them is providing access.
 
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Johnson (LG) said:
Well, you can have serial numbers posted, only if you say that all information posted is property of thier respective owners and for educational purposes only.
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cough*cough*bullsh|t*cough*cough
 
By your reasoning, I could post a disclaimer in a newspaper before I kill someone, or host child porn or Federal secrets on my site
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Umm...no. Hosting the files compared to just linking to them...or killing someone...is completely different. By your logic, I can't put a link to a serial website on my site?

I'm too tired to argue, can you just tell me what you base your theory on.
 
What Matters: It is illegal (assistance infringement), but you most likely won't have charges brought against you unless you are hosting the files.
 
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Ok, let me clear this whole discussion in ONE post.

Yes, a Torrent Site you are allowed. It is completley legal. You do and should put a disclaimer saying you are not responsible for any content being posted if it is illegal. Also put in the disclaimer that if they send you an email at say... warez@domainname.com with the files you want removed you will do so. Torrent sites don't host any files themselves. They are just links to files. So if you are saying any kind of torrent is illegal you are dead wrong. There is the exception of stuff you own. You are allowed to upload and share your own content that you made. If you get nailed for that you can probably just sue them and win because they have no right to sue you for sharing something you did. For example in Canada, you ARE allowed to download things like Music, and TV Shows.. but things like Movies and programs and such is illegal.

Hope this post helped clear things up :)
 
If your server is located somewhere in middle east where there is no copyright law, you are not breaking any laws, considering that copyright law is considered a US law and that US has no ifluence in middle-east(exept Iraq) you are doing something that is 100% legal. However if you live in US or US influenced countries you might be facing a lawsuit.

PS. don't quote me on this, im no expert.
 
And... can we say "still wrong"? The root DNS of the internet is still U.S. controlled. China was having a hissy about this a while back.

A ban of "just" the server hosting the site isnt all that would happen. A ban of the entire IP blocks of the DC hosting the site could happen. If a DC is in another country, I'd bet a big portion of their customers are in the U.S. How long do you think the DC would allow that site, or even the host that owns the server, to hang around?

That's what "could" happen. This has happened to a few major child porn rings, though I dont know of it ever being done to a warez site. Dont ever think you can do whatever you want, and just because the server is outside the U.S. that you are untouchable. If your server is outside the U.S but YOU are inside the U.S. Guess what, you're not very untouchable by U.S. law now are you?
 
I read an article about online poker and it being illegal in US etc. and, if you're supposedly right, why hasn't anyone cracked down on all the poker sites on tv?
 
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