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Bush's Resume...
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1) He fails to mention that the biggest majority of that comes from Mexico, who isnt subject to the Congressional laws. Their pollutions floats right over Texas. You also remember the new trade thing that allows Mexico trucks to come into our country delivering goods? They in no way whatsoever meat the pollution control guidlines required on American vehicle. However, Texas has been cracking down on this, and been in court many times against Mexican companies.
2) Gee, I live in houston, and skies seem pretty clear to me, not like LA or New York..
3) He also created tons of jobs, and got people off welfare. More single mothers are going to school now and becoming professionals. He spent that money doing some pretty impressive things and making a positive change. Ann Richards before him had already sapped much of the funding for her stupid endeavers. Texas WAS broke when Bush took office.
4) Good! Got rid of a lot of cold blooded killers by doing so. Why should I have to pay for their food, clothing, and cable tv? Considering world population will be overflowing soon, putting down all the cold killers would lighten the load on the economic and living strains of this world.
On the other hand, he hasnt done so well as President. I had high respects for him before the war, but not anymore. He couldnt catch Osama, so he changed world view over to Saddam, who he swore had WMD's, which still have yet to be found. So we went to war without proof. I defended Bush saying proof would be shown during or shortly after the war. When they couldnt find the weapons, they tried to shift world view into thinking we were liberating the Iraqi people....bull.
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Sorry for a quote soo far back but you can't make such a statement. I for one can debate this topic. And don't say we pursue character assasination, just check this out http://www.georgewbush.com/news/videolauncher.aspx?ID=731 Notice the paid for by bush-cheney.
But hey it's all good, just cause us liberals wanna help out those who are less fortunate. Hey but I believe the saying goes Ignorance is bliss right.
byrdgirl13
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He isn't as liberal as Dean, from what I know. That makes him the more likely to pick up swing voters. Swing voters are really what make or break a candidate. Most people vote for the candidate within their party, regardless of issues, since most candidates endorsed by a party will uphold that party's stance. Those people who don't necessarily vote on party lines are the swing voters.
Logical fallacy - hasty generalization.
Hasty generalization again, though you also haven't provided any evidence that there are any cases in which this statement is true.
Really, please enlighten me - why does wanting Bush out of office make a person further left than, say, wanting to drop all tax cuts from the last four years, use them to provide nationwide health care, supporting gay marriage, and/or supporting a woman's right to abortion? I'm sure there must be some logical way that disliking Bush automatically makes a person an extreme leftist, even if everything I have ever learned points to the idea that 'left' or 'right' in politics is based on a person's stance on issues.
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Gay marriage is a pretty far left-wing thing. nationwide polls have always pointed to the nation being opposed to it, often by many points. That's why liberals are using the courts and activist leftist judges to get their way- because put gay marriage up to a national vote and it loses big time.
If you hate the current administration so be it but you really shouldn't hate the country if it's coming from frustration. I personally can't stand the anti-Bush camp any more then I can stand the anti-Kerry camp. Personal attacks mean nothing, if you want to know who to vote for check the issues:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/issues/index.html
Stop the personal attacks on both sides. View the issues, stop being swayed by rhetoric, view issues more openly, and realize that not one party is always right. If the system becomes left vs. right without compromise then we live in a split society that will accomplish far less then if we simply work together and compromise.
That's not aimed at anyone in particular I just get annoyed with people attacking both sides. Do you have to be perfect without any flaws to be president? No one will qualify in that case except for those who are career politicians and watch every step and are to afraid to truly speak their thoughts on an issue.
For the record I'm an independent voter. I tend like Bush and what he has done overall but I have issues with some of his appointments and the laws that have passed. Not to mention the spending.. If you want to cut taxes to give more people more of their money back then great but you can't do it without reducing government spending. He can do it short term but long term it just doesn't balance. You have to make cuts and sacrafices and that just isn't happening.
I still have an open mind for voting thus far but if the democrats go to the far left they'll loose this election and I'm 100% sure of that. If they go slightly to the left but close to the center and the economy remains bad and Iraq/Afghanistan doesn't show progress of being self sustaining Bush could definitely loose.
Only time will answer that issue so anyone calling the election with complete confidence at this point is just making a wild guess IMO.
That's quite the rant but bottom line is view the issues, vote based on who backs your beliefs, and let the system do its job. If you don't believe in the system then move.
The Unemployment level is 5.6% with over 100,000 jobs being added per month (my guess is it will about around 4% by November). Hardly a tough environment for getting a job. Most socialist countries unemployment rate are close to double digits, for example France 9.1%, Germany 9.8%, Greece 10.3% (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-B/lab_une_rat/EUR)
The fact is that liberals vastly exaggarate the state of the country. They try to paint a picture of a 3rd world country living in poverty eating out of soup kitchens dying of preventable diseases because they can't afford healthcare.
And that's just not the case. Most people can and do afford healthcare, and US's healthcare system is one of the best in the world. Everyone who wants a job can find one. Hell, I found a job in August of last year when the unemployment rate was still 6.1%. If I can do it, anyone can.
byrdgirl13
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a worthwhile rant nonetheless. I'm also tired of all the negative campaigning - and arguing (most of all when claims are unsupported), and wish people would focus on voting for the candidate who will represent their stance on issues - after all, isn't that what the whole system is for? Representative democracy?
Perhaps that's too idealistic, though.
byrdgirl13
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Hmm, I don't remember hearing anything like this. What is your authority to support that claim?
Who said anything about socialism? Those are democracies. Anyway, let's look at some other European countries, as listed by that same source of yours.
- Switzerland: 1.9%
- Iceland: 2.8%
- Netherlands: 3.0%
- Norway: 3.9%
- Sweden: 4.0%
- Ireland: 4.7%
- Portugal: 4.7%
- Austria: 4.8%
United States is listed as 5% on that site. Are we doing so much better than Europe? Depends on which parts of the data you choose to look at.
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No...Blank Verse's party is always right.
But yeah I pretty much agree with you with most stuff. If the democrats lean too left they'll lose. If they're more center and have a viable economic plan that they can prove will work they're likely to win. Because while our unemployment rate nationally is relatively low, there are places like a county north of me that have a staggering 8.9% unemployment rate. So it's bad in some places, and you can't deny that. Well, you can, but you'll be wrong.
This is why I hate Politics, it causes a lot of heated debates between people who are normally quite friendly.
Usually it doesn't go too far but I have seen some arguments turn into full on flaming wars.
I'm not a U.S. Citizen, just check my profile, I'm an Aussie. So I can't really comment on how the US president's decisions have effected life, except what I see on the news.
There has been more anti-US sentiment around here since the war, but that usually only just general ramblings & bitching of people who don't fully understand the situation.
I've been the to US many times and I loved it there. I don't claim to know what the situation there is concerning terrorism, the war, etc.
I live in a city of politicians, Canberra, Australia's captial. And I am never ceased to be amazed at the amount of B.S. you see when it comes to politicians, their supposed goals & their career paths.
I'm not sure if this will mean anything to anyone but no matter how unhappy you are with your country or goverment you can find solace in the fact you are living in a country that allows more freedom than most others.
That in itself is something to be proud of!
Usually it doesn't go too far but I have seen some arguments turn into full on flaming wars.
I'm not a U.S. Citizen, just check my profile, I'm an Aussie. So I can't really comment on how the US president's decisions have effected life, except what I see on the news.
There has been more anti-US sentiment around here since the war, but that usually only just general ramblings & bitching of people who don't fully understand the situation.
I've been the to US many times and I loved it there. I don't claim to know what the situation there is concerning terrorism, the war, etc.
I live in a city of politicians, Canberra, Australia's captial. And I am never ceased to be amazed at the amount of B.S. you see when it comes to politicians, their supposed goals & their career paths.
I'm not sure if this will mean anything to anyone but no matter how unhappy you are with your country or goverment you can find solace in the fact you are living in a country that allows more freedom than most others.
That in itself is something to be proud of!
byrdgirl13
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And a lot of unwarranted statements from people who can often act so rational? :wink2:
And yes, the freedom is something to be proud we have - and to not use it would be shameful, IMO. We depend on the controversy among viewpoints to keep the government and the nation in a balance. If we would just shut up and appreciate that we have the freedom to not shut up...well here's what someone else has to say about a rather related topic...
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
(That was Theodore Roosevelt, former president)
Yeah, politics can be frustrating. But it's the way we keep our government's power in check, and we know from Hitler and others that that's pretty important. It would be nice, though, if it didn't have to degenerate into flame wars half the time.
And yes, the freedom is something to be proud we have - and to not use it would be shameful, IMO. We depend on the controversy among viewpoints to keep the government and the nation in a balance. If we would just shut up and appreciate that we have the freedom to not shut up...well here's what someone else has to say about a rather related topic...
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
(That was Theodore Roosevelt, former president)
Yeah, politics can be frustrating. But it's the way we keep our government's power in check, and we know from Hitler and others that that's pretty important. It would be nice, though, if it didn't have to degenerate into flame wars half the time.
