Why would anyone use JSP?

[conkermaniac]

It just doesn't make sense to use JSP for any website. I have heard that the first time a user views a page, it loads very slowly, even though it becomes very robust and speedy the next few times around. Even so, I cannot understand why anyone who is concerned with attracting visitors would use it. Users are looking for speed in a website, and if it's slow the first time try it, they won't be back to find out how quick it is the next few times around.

 

[Bruce]

I don't believe I've even ever seen a JavaServer Page.

 

[conkermaniac]

No?

They're everywhere! Take a look at www.mlb.com for an example.

 

[kabatak]

jsp, not quite slow really but I dunno, heh...
one of the fastest site I saw is this forum, even if I had tons of downloads, I can still browse here fast.
:cool2:

 

[conkermaniac]

Huh? This forum isn't written in JSP.

MLB.com does have a forum written in JSP, I believe, and it's pretty darn slow! :confused2

 

[kabatak]

yeah i know, heh.. i was just saying that this forum is fast.

 

[conkermaniac]

LOL, I made a mistake. The MLB forum is coded in ASP, which is also a rather clumsy language.

Anyway, I've only seen one JSP board ever, and that was a test JSP WWWBoard on JSP Resource Index.

 

[biggulp]

i think jsp has to "compile" the page onthe first run, so it may be slower. starwars forums uses jsp i think

 

[GregT]

here another in jsp. http://forums.sonymusic.com/
it not that slow, but perl and php seem to be much faster.

 

[Nemesis249]

i wouldnt say that they were 'much' faster but they are faster never the less.

 

[OriginXT]

jsp is cool.
My friend specializes in Java and JSP!

 

[guitarnerd]

Because it is real code, it is more for advanced stuff. Web applications etc

 

[conkermaniac]

Biggulp and raz0r: I know the forum script that both those boards use. Would you believe that they charge $100 for personal sites, $500 for medium-sized communities who want more features, and still more for large communities and organizations. I mean, I'd go for vB anyday!

And guitarnerd: It looks like you're thinking about Java applets. JSP isn't any more "real" programming than is PHP or ASP. JSP and ASP are practically twin languages; in fact, I think Sun copied Microsoft when they made the language.

 

[guitarnerd]

I have an online Math Class that is all JSP except for a plug in it uses and it is really slow but very advanced. It has some cool features. I was thinking about JavaScript at the time though my bad

 

[biggulp]

any idea what that board is called? it looks basic compared to vb and many php/sql boards