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netfirms blocks ips from china!!??
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I have news for you, many pay hosts are blocking China and a few other Asian countries as well. That's where the biggest majority of warez, porn, and credit card frauds come from. So that affects both pay and free hosting. All the proxies they can go thru are getting blocked as well. The ISP's there figure nothing can be done to them, so they dont kick abusers. They will rethink that attitude when they wake up one day and find they and their abuser users are blocked from the rest of the world.. It's unfortunate that many innocent victims get caught up in that.
I always thought the China blocked Netfirms, not the other way around?
Anyway, I do realize that lots of trouble comes from Asia, especially the China/Taiwan and Japan area. But during my tenure at 9cy, I reailzed that there is abuse from Germany (therefore, German IPs should be blocked as well) and the United States (should all US IPs be banned?). All this warez is counterable. If you can deal with US abuse, then you certainly can deal with Chinese abuse.
Anyway, I do realize that lots of trouble comes from Asia, especially the China/Taiwan and Japan area. But during my tenure at 9cy, I reailzed that there is abuse from Germany (therefore, German IPs should be blocked as well) and the United States (should all US IPs be banned?). All this warez is counterable. If you can deal with US abuse, then you certainly can deal with Chinese abuse.
There is a difference is blocking asia and blocking the US
and that is there is only a few out many from the US that are uploading warez so you cant block the entire US just because of a few people
but asia they are easily banned since all they do is abuse free hosts and there are no legitimate usage
Also many advertisers will not pay for asian traffic so it is useless to free hosts and anyone trying to make money from advertising so why should any host pay for their bandwidth usage when were not making any money from them to pay for it
and that is there is only a few out many from the US that are uploading warez so you cant block the entire US just because of a few people
but asia they are easily banned since all they do is abuse free hosts and there are no legitimate usage
Also many advertisers will not pay for asian traffic so it is useless to free hosts and anyone trying to make money from advertising so why should any host pay for their bandwidth usage when were not making any money from them to pay for it
All Asians do is abuse hosts? Yeah, right. I have never abused a host in my entire life.
If advertisers do not pay for Asian traffic, then I suggest you find a new advertising company that is not racist. I think that advertising has become absolutely meaningless to people living in Europe, Africa, and sometimes even Australia, as well, and many Americans use pop-up killers.
If advertisers do not pay for Asian traffic, then I suggest you find a new advertising company that is not racist. I think that advertising has become absolutely meaningless to people living in Europe, Africa, and sometimes even Australia, as well, and many Americans use pop-up killers.
Yes, but it also gives your host a bad reputation among the legitimate users. And if they're like me, that could be pretty bad. 
Ways around pop-up killers? Advertisers won't like that because you're forcing ads onto people who wouldn't care about the product one way or another. That would cost the advertisers more money, without any benefit whatsoever.
Ways around pop-up killers? Advertisers won't like that because you're forcing ads onto people who wouldn't care about the product one way or another. That would cost the advertisers more money, without any benefit whatsoever.
The statistics are that over 90% of abuse comes from Asian countries. I dont know why that is, but I have experienced close to those same percentages myself. I have high regards for Asians off the net, but in general, I have learned to be wary of them on the net. I think that abuse may have resulted from some issues with China not being able to access ssl sites at first (just guessing) or some other reason did have access to software other than illegal downloads?
That's strange...On 9cy, I got 40% of the abuse from Germany, another 40% from Asia, and another 15% from the United States. The other 5% was divided between other countries.
You have to remember, I am using several years data and experience on it. The only abuse (for the most part) that I have had come from Germany is via proxy sites. Each time someone logs into their account, everything is logged. I will find multiple logins from proxies in Germany and other locations, but then they often slip up and forget to go thru the proxy once in a while. When they do, I generally find they are actually from Asian areas..
Hmm, with my saying that, just had another thought for an addition to my WarezHunter script. I can have it scan logs and block the IP associated with any warez files it deletes..would practically kill off all proxy access since there are only so many of them. If they can only use a proxy once, they would soon run out of any unblocked proxies.
Hmm, with my saying that, just had another thought for an addition to my WarezHunter script. I can have it scan logs and block the IP associated with any warez files it deletes..would practically kill off all proxy access since there are only so many of them. If they can only use a proxy once, they would soon run out of any unblocked proxies.
Well, I'm using data that the users actually give. Clearly, some people lie (putting that they are from Azerbaijian and other false data), but surprisingly, some of them put quite accurate information. The ones that are actually running warez generally have traces of German, and their addresses/phone #s sometimes even appear authentic.
The people from China, Korea, and Japan sometimes give data that appear authentic. They usually have traces of their language on the site (or in the case of China, a lot of the language), and they usually copy parts of other people's sites to use as a "fake" index page (9cy deletes sites who do not have an index page).
The people from the United States give false data almost all of the time, and they generally are really obvious. I suspect that all the people who put down Azerbaijian, Afghanistan, Andorra, or Armenia are generally Americans.
The people from China, Korea, and Japan sometimes give data that appear authentic. They usually have traces of their language on the site (or in the case of China, a lot of the language), and they usually copy parts of other people's sites to use as a "fake" index page (9cy deletes sites who do not have an index page).
The people from the United States give false data almost all of the time, and they generally are really obvious. I suspect that all the people who put down Azerbaijian, Afghanistan, Andorra, or Armenia are generally Americans.
Sorry for posting again, but I just read this, and I found this function to be quite stupid. If any administrator uses this, they'll be blocking off sign-ups to pretty much EVERYONE, since there are warez users from around the world. And there is absolutely no way that you can block off all proxies. You have to remember that hundreds of proxies are created/repaired/restored every day. You're never going to get all of them.
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Webdude there is an easier way of blocking proxy access
When you go though a proxy it usualy sends its own VIA header
which usually contains the name and version of the proxy server software
This cannot be used to reveal the ip address of anonymous surfers but it does tell you if they are using a proxy or not
When you go though a proxy it usualy sends its own VIA header
which usually contains the name and version of the proxy server software
This cannot be used to reveal the ip address of anonymous surfers but it does tell you if they are using a proxy or not
