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Seraphim

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I've heard that Google Adsense actually does quite poorly on forums and blogs, which seem to be the dominant type of site on free hosting.

Reading into the matter a bit, it seems like ad networks that are primarally CPM-based would work much better for a free host to use.

Does anyone have recommendations on what CPM banner ad networks to use and which ones to avoid?
 
Adsense is still better than the others. The problem with forums is that the people that use forums are usually pretty web savvy, so they are used to ignoring ads. One the to try is different ad formats. Banners and leaders boards will be ignored by forum users. Use off shape ads and text ads, that will help a bit.
 
Adsense is still better than the others. The problem with forums is that the people that use forums are usually pretty web savvy, so they are used to ignoring ads. One the to try is different ad formats. Banners and leaders boards will be ignored by forum users. Use off shape ads and text ads, that will help a bit.

Which is why I am having concerns about Adsense's effectiveness.

A CPM-based ad network pays based on 1000 pageviews, meaning even if the users ignore the ads you are still paid for them as long as they are displayed (Some users adblock, which while useful hurts the bottom line).

AdSense is almost entirely Cost Per Click, so when people ignore them it really shows. CPM ads don't start appearing through adsense until a site has gotten quite high traffic counts.
 
Which is why I am having concerns about Adsense's effectiveness.

A CPM-based ad network pays based on 1000 pageviews, meaning even if the users ignore the ads you are still paid for them as long as they are displayed (Some users adblock, which while useful hurts the bottom line).

AdSense is almost entirely Cost Per Click, so when people ignore them it really shows. CPM ads don't start appearing through adsense until a site has gotten quite high traffic counts.

I've used most of the major ad networks over the years, and in my experience Adsense pays better than all others. The rate on most of the CPM networks is so low, that even if you are getting paid per impression, it still is not more than adsense. Their are good cpm networks out there though, but unless your site quality is very good and you have a lot of traffic, you will not get approved. The best thing to do is find ad formats and locations that generate the most. Move away from the standard sizes and shapes - people are too used to seeing them and ignore them. Or perhaps try in-text ads. They are still fairly new and might generate more clicks.
 
I would say CPX Interactive, and other Israel company they have about 60 million websites in their portfolio, but I have whole list of ad networks, affiliate networks, etc.
If you need that list pop me a PM, so that I would now that I need to start digg in my documents :)
 
AdBrite would come after AdSense for me, it seems many websites are being unjustly terminated off AdSense publisher services these days.
 
AdBrite would come after AdSense for me, it seems many websites are being unjustly terminated off AdSense publisher services these days.

They are terminated for violating the publisher agreement - they have the responsibility of maintaining quality on their ad network.
 
adsense is famous for not paying the publishers especially those who almost reach their payout amounts.

even if u never violate any part of their TOS, u will be accused of fraud click and they will not entertain ur appeal...

it is already something very common now
 
adsense is famous for not paying the publishers especially those who almost reach their payout amounts.

even if u never violate any part of their TOS, u will be accused of fraud click and they will not entertain ur appeal...

it is already something very common now

well, they do have a minimum payout, that's nothing new. And like I said,if you don't violate their terms you have nothing to worry about. Of course they will cancel you for click fraud, any good network would.
 
well, they do have a minimum payout, that's nothing new. And like I said,if you don't violate their terms you have nothing to worry about. Of course they will cancel you for click fraud, any good network would.

if u did read, i used the word "accuse"
which means they suspend ur account saying that u fraud click, although u never did it.

i was 1 of the adsense victim for this, as well as a lot of my frens.
 
if u did read, i used the word "accuse"
which means they suspend ur account saying that u fraud click, although u never did it.

i was 1 of the adsense victim for this, as well as a lot of my frens.

I don't buy it.. I've used adsense on many sites and never had a problem. I guarantee if you read through the terms you actually did break a rule somewhere. They have nothing to gain by not running ads on your site - remember, they make money from the ads on your site. However, they also have to protect their advertisers and maintain the quality of their network.
 
I don't buy it.. I've used adsense on many sites and never had a problem. I guarantee if you read through the terms you actually did break a rule somewhere. They have nothing to gain by not running ads on your site - remember, they make money from the ads on your site. However, they also have to protect their advertisers and maintain the quality of their network.
My adsense suffered the same fate.

I was accused for fraud clicking even though it never occured. Reviewed their ToS and violated none of it.

They closed me just to do it.
 
My adsense suffered the same fate.

I was accused for fraud clicking even though it never occured. Reviewed their ToS and violated none of it.

They closed me just to do it.

Is this on the site in your signature? One thing I do know about adsense is they are not very forum friendly. People on forums tend to think that they are helping you by clicking ads 5 times in a day; when in fact it will get your account closed :(
 
Is this on the site in your signature? One thing I do know about adsense is they are not very forum friendly. People on forums tend to think that they are helping you by clicking ads 5 times in a day; when in fact it will get your account closed :(
No this was a long time ago... Back when i was running a game
 
@jphilipson
it is not ur turn to get the same fate yet.
when u did, u will say the same thing like us in the future.
:)
history always happen again and again for the adsense story.
:)
 
One of these years I wanna try my own crazy take on ads - the Ad-Only page! Kinda like reverse psychology, it's almost like my gameshow thread style for ads.
 
You know that would be an interesting comparison- a page that displays ads from different networks to compare payout rates.

Already comparing two different ad networks on a common page through a collaboraton project I've noticed the AdBrite ads are outperforming Adsense by a long shot, in fact I'll have made as much in a month on AdBrite as AdSense made in 4 months.
 
You know that would be an interesting comparison- a page that displays ads from different networks to compare payout rates.

Already comparing two different ad networks on a common page through a collaboraton project I've noticed the AdBrite ads are outperforming Adsense by a long shot, in fact I'll have made as much in a month on AdBrite as AdSense made in 4 months.

Where are you using these ads? I've never seen Adbrite even come close to Adsense. Are they on user pages?
 
Where are you using these ads? I've never seen Adbrite even come close to Adsense. Are they on user pages?

adbrite is really very good.
but too bad, their revised rules at last year do not allow ads to be use on free hosters due to there is possibility that some hosted sites are running porns.

but for other sites, u can use adbrite happily.
for adbrite, the more click u get from ur users at that day, the higher rate is ur CPM.
this is how u can earn more than in adsense if u r using adbrite.

but still, it is all depends on ur visitor anyway.
:)
 
adbrite is really very good.
but too bad, their revised rules at last year do not allow ads to be use on free hosters due to there is possibility that some hosted sites are running porns.

but for other sites, u can use adbrite happily.
for adbrite, the more click u get from ur users at that day, the higher rate is ur CPM.
this is how u can earn more than in adsense if u r using adbrite.

but still, it is all depends on ur visitor anyway.
:)

That's also in how you use it too though. Putting Adbrite on your own site they will complain and refuse to approve the site even though no free web host I know of actually puts customer content on their own front page.

But the sites hosted on the free hosting can easily have adbrite ads as long as they do not contain adult content- you have to use adbrite's adult ad counterpart for sites that do. They just have to be approved in the normal manner for this, and make sure that the hosting customer knows their account is not approved for adult content. Manual ad enforcement is a must, automated solutions that apply the ads inline will cause problems because you'll be using the ads on unapproved content.

So the fix is to sort your customer sites by content type. The usual sites get standard issue adbrite ads, while sites that cross the line get the (higher paying) specialty ads.

Also part of why I like adbrite is because it is a primarially CPM network, so you get paid for views even if those views do not result in a click. I can see were the CPM rate drops if not enough clicks are generated though, it figures there was some type of trick to that mode of advertising.
 
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